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« on: October 06, 2017, 02:32:16 PM »

"Donald Trump's government has issued a ruling that allows employers to opt out of providing free birth control to millions of Americans.

The rule allows employers and insurers to decline to provide birth control if doing so violates their "religious beliefs" or "moral convictions".

Fifty-five million women benefited from the Obama-era rule, which made companies provide free birth control."


Link: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41528526?
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2017, 02:49:39 PM »

As a candidate, Mr Trump had pledged to eliminate that requirement.
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2017, 03:02:02 PM »

When will they eliminate the fully medically unnecessary Viagra from insurance?
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2017, 03:19:43 PM »

When will they eliminate the fully medically unnecessary Viagra from insurance?

Never
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2017, 03:33:21 PM »

Companies should not be mandated to provide birth control to their employees

BTW, the article is a good lesson in how words have no meaning anymore

Changing laws that Mandate bosses to provide BC to women does not mean that women are prevented from obtaining BC

If the government mandated that you must have a palm tree in your backyard, and then reversed that mandate, does that mean that you can't have a palm tree in your backyard?
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2017, 03:38:22 PM »

Companies should not be mandated to provide birth control to their employees

BTW, the article is a good lesson in how words have no meaning anymore

Changing laws that Mandate bosses to provide BC to women does not mean that women are prevented from obtaining BC

If the government mandated that you must have a palm tree in your backyard, and then reversed that mandate, does that mean that you can't have a palm tree in your backyard?

You do know that there are millions of women on BC, not for birth control but for what the pill also does? So you're basically saying it's not medically necessary when for many it is. Not like it matters to you I imagine though.
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2017, 03:38:38 PM »

When will they eliminate the fully medically unnecessary Viagra from insurance?

As if people like these are going to get rid of their boner medicine coverage:




It's critical for their well-being, or, you know, something like that.
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2017, 03:38:55 PM »

#Sick of winning.
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2017, 03:40:11 PM »

Companies should not be mandated to provide birth control to their employees

BTW, the article is a good lesson in how words have no meaning anymore

Changing laws that Mandate bosses to provide BC to women does not mean that women are prevented from obtaining BC

If the government mandated that you must have a palm tree in your backyard, and then reversed that mandate, does that mean that you can't have a palm tree in your backyard?

It's about accessibility to medically required essentials, rather than whether or not they can have it. Stop with the false equivalences.

Did you know that birth control is used for more than just anti-contraceptive measures?

Words can always "have no meaning" depending on the context. However, in this case, you just chose to ignore the premise altogether.
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2017, 03:42:53 PM »

Impotent conservative males at it again.
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2017, 03:47:51 PM »

Companies should not be mandated to provide birth control to their employees

BTW, the article is a good lesson in how words have no meaning anymore

Changing laws that Mandate bosses to provide BC to women does not mean that women are prevented from obtaining BC

If the government mandated that you must have a palm tree in your backyard, and then reversed that mandate, does that mean that you can't have a palm tree in your backyard?

It's about accessibility to medically required essentials, rather than whether or not they can have it. Stop with the false equivalences.

Did you know that birth control is used for more than just anti-contraceptive measures?

Words can always "have no meaning" depending on the context. However, in this case, you just chose to ignore the premise altogether.

To me, it is ridiculous to mandate that your boss pay for your birth control. If he/she wants to, then that is their right. But we as a nation aren't about mandating things that go against beliefs.

It's the height of hypocrisy to want the government out of your vaginal activity but then turn around want the government to pay for your birth control

Furthermore, it's insane to think that access is "over" for a woman if their boss doesn't pay for it

There are innumerable amount of options
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2017, 03:49:49 PM »

Companies should not be mandated to provide birth control to their employees

BTW, the article is a good lesson in how words have no meaning anymore

Changing laws that Mandate bosses to provide BC to women does not mean that women are prevented from obtaining BC

If the government mandated that you must have a palm tree in your backyard, and then reversed that mandate, does that mean that you can't have a palm tree in your backyard?

It's about accessibility to medically required essentials, rather than whether or not they can have it. Stop with the false equivalences.

Did you know that birth control is used for more than just anti-contraceptive measures?

Words can always "have no meaning" depending on the context. However, in this case, you just chose to ignore the premise altogether.

To me, it is ridiculous to mandate that your boss pay for your birth control. If he/she wants to, then that is their right. But we as a nation aren't about mandating things that go against beliefs.

It's the height of hypocrisy to want the government out of your vaginal activity but then turn around want the government to pay for your birth control

Furthermore, it's insane to think that access is "over" for a woman if their boss doesn't pay for it

There are innumerable amount of options

So you're trying to create death panels based on religious beliefs then? Sounds about right.
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2017, 03:53:40 PM »

I'm pissed off that 'beliefs' seem to trump actual f-cking biology.
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2017, 03:54:31 PM »

When will they eliminate the fully medically unnecessary Viagra from insurance?

As if people like these are going to get rid of their boner medicine coverage:




It's critical for their well-being, or, you know, something like that.

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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2017, 04:12:19 PM »

I'm pissed off that 'beliefs' seem to trump actual f-cking biology.

Tends to be the case for human beings.
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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2017, 04:24:12 PM »

It's beyond time that birth control was available over the counter
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« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2017, 04:37:36 PM »

It's beyond time that birth control was available over the counter

There's actual medical reasons for why it shouldn't. BC isn't just a one size fits all, sometimes people can have very bad reactions to certain types, it's something you need to see a doctor and work with them to get the right version and regular medical care
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« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2017, 04:44:50 PM »

Companies should not be mandated to provide birth control to their employees

BTW, the article is a good lesson in how words have no meaning anymore

Changing laws that Mandate bosses to provide BC to women does not mean that women are prevented from obtaining BC

If the government mandated that you must have a palm tree in your backyard, and then reversed that mandate, does that mean that you can't have a palm tree in your backyard?

It's about accessibility to medically required essentials, rather than whether or not they can have it. Stop with the false equivalences.

Did you know that birth control is used for more than just anti-contraceptive measures?

Words can always "have no meaning" depending on the context. However, in this case, you just chose to ignore the premise altogether.

To me, it is ridiculous to mandate that your boss pay for your birth control. If he/she wants to, then that is their right. But we as a nation aren't about mandating things that go against beliefs.

It's the height of hypocrisy to want the government out of your vaginal activity but then turn around want the government to pay for your birth control

Furthermore, it's insane to think that access is "over" for a woman if their boss doesn't pay for it

There are innumerable amount of options

Should Jehovah's witnesses bosses be allowed to not have their employee health plans cover blood transfusions?

Didn't think so. This has nothing to do with "religious freedom" and everything to do with conservative opposition to women enjoying sex without consequences.
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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2017, 05:49:24 PM »

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We sued @POTUS today to defend the critical health care protections of millions of women in Massachusetts and across the US. #HandsOffMyBC
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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2017, 05:56:06 PM »
« Edited: October 06, 2017, 05:59:49 PM by Old School Republican »

I dont see the problem with this , all this is doing is giving insurance companies the right to decide if they want to cover BC or not  . If you want it covered , then choose an insurance company what will cover it.


Only thing insurance companies should be mandated  to cover are : expensive surgeries , medicine what is vital to someone's health , and emergencies .









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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2017, 06:05:24 PM »

I dont see the problem with this , all this is doing is giving insurance companies the right to decide if they want to cover BC or not  . If you want it covered , then choose an insurance company what will cover it.


Only thing insurance companies should be mandated  to cover are : expensive surgeries , medicine what is vital to someone's health , and emergencies .


Some women literally use birth control for that exact purpose.
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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2017, 06:10:06 PM »

I dont see the problem with this , all this is doing is giving insurance companies the right to decide if they want to cover BC or not  . If you want it covered , then choose an insurance company what will cover it.


Only thing insurance companies should be mandated  to cover are : expensive surgeries , medicine what is vital to someone's health , and emergencies .



Most people don't have the privilege of "choosing another insurance company." If you get it from work, you take or leave whatever they offer you.

Even in the individual markets, there are often few or 1 option, especially if you're poor and need Exchange subsidies.
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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2017, 06:11:35 PM »

I dont see the problem with this , all this is doing is giving insurance companies the right to decide if they want to cover BC or not  . If you want it covered , then choose an insurance company what will cover it.


Only thing insurance companies should be mandated  to cover are : expensive surgeries , medicine what is vital to someone's health , and emergencies .


Some women literally use birth control for that exact purpose.


This! Believe it or not, birth control pills have more uses than just as a contraceptive, and for many women it is a medical necessity.
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2017, 07:36:08 PM »

Why do religious conservatives think birth control is bad? Do they advocate for unwanted children being born out of wedlock by teenagers etc.?
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2017, 07:59:19 PM »

I dont see the problem with this , all this is doing is giving insurance companies the right to decide if they want to cover BC or not  . If you want it covered , then choose an insurance company what will cover it.


Only thing insurance companies should be mandated  to cover are : expensive surgeries , medicine what is vital to someone's health , and emergencies .










You're not a woman. You don't know whether or not their use of BC is vital to their health or not. That is the GOP's problem. Ignorant of female anatomy but feel they have autonomy to make legislation on it.
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