Trump Likely to Win Re-Election, According to a Dem Strategist

[BudgieForce]

I dont get point number 3. The 2016 national polls werent off by that much. Going by that, it should suggest his national approval ratings are fairly accurate.

[BudgieForce]

One of my mistakes was undercounting the importance of the fundamentals.

You made the mistake of thinking of Trump as a typical politician.

It should've been clear he wasn't when everyone was predicting the "beginning of the end for Trump" way back on July 20th, 2015 but he kept on trucking along.

I knew he would win the Presidency once he survived mocking that reporter.

I think your underestimating how unpopular Hillary was. Trump was able to squeak out a win because his opponent was just as unpopular. If he faces a conventional politician with decent approval ratings, it doesnt matter if Trump isnt a typical politician.

[BudgieForce]

One of my mistakes was undercounting the importance of the fundamentals.

You made the mistake of thinking of Trump as a typical politician.

It should've been clear he wasn't when everyone was predicting the "beginning of the end for Trump" way back on July 20th, 2015 but he kept on trucking along.

I knew he would win the Presidency once he survived mocking that reporter.

I think your underestimating how unpopular Hillary was. Trump was able to squeak out a win because his opponent was just as unpopular. If he faces a conventional politician with decent approval ratings, it doesnt matter if Trump isnt a typical politician.

I don't buy that because before the election all we heard about how Trump was the worst Hillary was the best she had the best campaign ever omg Trump may not concede, etc. etc.

Hillary had better campaign infrastructure, fact. Hillary had horrendous favorable numbers, fact. Hillary still won the popular vote by 2.8 million votes, fact. I'm not sure where the argument is. Hillary ran the better campaign and got her voters out, she just got the wrong voters out.
 

[BudgieForce]

If a bunch of white trash loaded up with guns lived in closer proximity to one another, I guarantee you the homicide rate would be even higher than it is among those "disgusting Democrat cities".

Why are you so obsessed with how many white people kill themselves anyway? The highest suicide rate in the world is South Korea, and I don't think "lol dead ASian racists!" no, I hope they improve on that and lower the rate.

Is this the respect you were talking about?

Imagine how crappy your life is when you celebrate the suicide rate of your own countrymen. You need to find employment, it's not the 1%'s fault you don't have a job.

Establishment Democrat 1: "Haha, look at all those rural white males committing suicide!"
Establishment Democrat 2: "Hey, any idea why we aren't doing so well with working class whites?"
Establishment Democrat 1: "Beats me."

WTF are you talking about?

[BudgieForce]

If a bunch of white trash loaded up with guns lived in closer proximity to one another, I guarantee you the homicide rate would be even higher than it is among those "disgusting Democrat cities".

Why are you so obsessed with how many white people kill themselves anyway? The highest suicide rate in the world is South Korea, and I don't think "lol dead ASian racists!" no, I hope they improve on that and lower the rate.

Is this the respect you were talking about?

Imagine how crappy your life is when you celebrate the suicide rate of your own countrymen. You need to find employment, it's not the 1%'s fault you don't have a job.

Establishment Democrat 1: "Haha, look at all those rural white males committing suicide!"
Establishment Democrat 2: "Hey, any idea why we aren't doing so well with working class whites?"
Establishment Democrat 1: "Beats me."

WTF are you talking about?

Who knows. Jfern is an idiot loon from CA who doesn't even personally come from the white working class ethos but thinks he has all the solutions for us by pushing for his own warped definition of "Full Socialism" or whatever.

So how'd your pal Jon Ossoff do with his $30 million?

Had he actually lived in the district, he might have been a congressmen about now.

[BudgieForce]

If a bunch of white trash loaded up with guns lived in closer proximity to one another, I guarantee you the homicide rate would be even higher than it is among those "disgusting Democrat cities".

Why are you so obsessed with how many white people kill themselves anyway? The highest suicide rate in the world is South Korea, and I don't think "lol dead ASian racists!" no, I hope they improve on that and lower the rate.

Is this the respect you were talking about?

Imagine how crappy your life is when you celebrate the suicide rate of your own countrymen. You need to find employment, it's not the 1%'s fault you don't have a job.

Establishment Democrat 1: "Haha, look at all those rural white males committing suicide!"
Establishment Democrat 2: "Hey, any idea why we aren't doing so well with working class whites?"
Establishment Democrat 1: "Beats me."

WTF are you talking about?

Who knows. Jfern is an idiot loon from CA who doesn't even personally come from the white working class ethos but thinks he has all the solutions for us by pushing for his own warped definition of "Full Socialism" or whatever.

So how'd your pal Jon Ossoff do with his $30 million?

Had he actually lived in the district, he might have been a congressmen about now.

Well, that was a known fact before $30 million was spent on him. But many members of Congress don't live in their districts, anyways. Sometimes they don't even carpetbag to the correct district, like Tom McClintock.

True, but in a close race like the one for Price's seat, Handel's constant attacks on Ossoff's lack of residency was enough to sway enough people over. I mean, even I don't think I would vote to send someone to Congress if they didn't live in my district.

[BudgieForce]

I didn't waste my time making a new prediction for Atlas I just got a prediction from a few weeks ago. But honestly it's pathetic that you can only nitpick my predictions instead if actually defend Trump's record.

You mean Trump's record of winning elections which is flawless?

Look at this picture: https://i.imgur.com/6Z9QQj3.jpg

This pretty much sums up Trump denialists.

No one is denying Trump beat the odds.

[BudgieForce]

Trump did better than expected, but let's not forget he barely won against Hillary Clinton and lost the popular vote by millions of votes, and this was with the Comey letter and Wikileaks hacking the Clinton campaign. Yes, other factors played an important role too but he didn't run a brilliant campaign or win some Reaganesque landslide.

The fact he won despite not running a brilliant campaign doesn't make you step back and ask questions?

Shouldn't the fact he only spent less than $5 a vote in 2016 not ring any alarm bells? What if he doubles his spending in 2020?

David beat Goliath, and you're nitpicking the fact David needed a sling to do it.

"David beat Goliath" because outside forces broke one of Goliath's legs at the last minute.

[BudgieForce]

Trump did better than expected, but let's not forget he barely won against Hillary Clinton and lost the popular vote by millions of votes, and this was with the Comey letter and Wikileaks hacking the Clinton campaign. Yes, other factors played an important role too but he didn't run a brilliant campaign or win some Reaganesque landslide.

The fact he won despite not running a brilliant campaign doesn't make you step back and ask questions?

Shouldn't the fact he only spent less than $5 a vote in 2016 not ring any alarm bells? What if he doubles his spending in 2020?

David beat Goliath, and you're nitpicking the fact David needed a sling to do it.

"David beat Goliath" because outside forces broke one of Goliath's legs at the last minute.

If that's the case then David was blinded, his legs cut off, and given a faulty weapon (in other words: the Access Hollywood tape).

Not to mention Goliath brought a ton more weapons and armor to the fight (campaign cash + super PACs).

David had time to recover, Goliath got crippled right before the fight. Trump had time to recover, Hillary got Comey'ed right before the election. Its not a fair comparison. Had Comey happend in September, then you'd have a point.

[BudgieForce]

David had time to recover, Goliath got crippled right before the fight. Trump had time to recover, Hillary got Comey'ed right before the election. Its not a fair comparison. Had Comey happend in September, then you'd have a point.

- A dozen plus women accuse him of sexual assault
- "Had time to recover"

Pick one.

Not to mention the Comey letter was 100% her fault anyway. She was told the e-mail server was going to be a problem but she thought she was so invincible it wouldn't matter.

Let's no rewrite history and act like Clinton was the underdog here lol.

No one is saying she was. But you cant deny that without Comey, Hillary might very well be president right now.

[BudgieForce]

No one is saying she was. But you cant deny that without Comey, Hillary might very well be president right now.

But if you take away Comey you have to take away the Access Hollywood tape to be fair. After that it's a toss-up.

Plus, outside factors happen all the time. You think Romney expected the 47% tape for example?

She had all the advantages in the world. REPUBLICANS were trying to help her win. She had a gajillion Super PACs. She spent over $1.2 billion. She had the "best ground game" and "data operation" of all time. Trump on the other hand had an annoyingly frugal campaign and kept shoving his foot in his mouth.

It's like having the 1992 Dream Team lose 4 games to 3 against Kentucky then complaining about a missed foul call. Should've never came down to that in the first place.

No you dont. Your being intellectually dishonest if you dont think timing was a factor. Im just gonna put you on ignore cause this is dumb.