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Adam Griffin
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« on: October 11, 2017, 04:17:30 PM »
« edited: October 11, 2017, 05:13:53 PM by Fmr. Pres. Griffin »

Trump is the first true pro-American President we've had in decades. It will take some time but if Trump and Bannon can make a huge statement in 2018 we could see a revolution.

Ayyyy these assholes control every lever of power in this country and they're still talking about "revolution" LOL

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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2017, 04:32:49 PM »

Trump is the first true pro-American President we've had in decades. It will take some time but if Trump and Bannon can make a huge statement in 2018 we could see a revolution.

Ayyyy these assholes control every lever of power in this country and they're still talking about "revolution" LOL

"When they go low - we go high."

Love how Trump has exposed those on the left as sanctimonious.

You're like a bully who gets mad when the bullied kid fights back. "How dare he not let me take his lunch money?!?!?!"

Anybody who knows me knows I have never advocated for self-righteous morality in the face of politics. Y'all deserve to be rat-fycked at every turn and at every opportunity - the Golden Rule and all that.

Who's "the bully" in this scenario, in your opinion? Online randos? The Big Bad Jew Media? The Deep State? Bilderberg? Please share with us all why your party has total control and yet still can't manage to do a goddamn thing other than talk about how great things will be once you finally win!
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2017, 04:55:07 PM »

Why lie?

At least be honest. In another thread all the Democrats are telling me they liked Mitt Romney. In another I'm told that they thought Russia was a threat in 2012. In another I'm told they just "knew" Trump would win.

This "Well, I am one of the few who doesn't care about insults!" is said a lot as well. Why lie? Why not just be honest and admit the hypocrisy? I am waiting for one to just be proud of it, then I'll be impressed. This denial is just plain boring and predictable (I knew that's what you'd say).

I don't give a damn what other Democrats have told you. I'm telling you that I endorse any strategy, any tactic, and any solution that blockades, obstructs and/or ultimately eliminates the political power of the GOP in this country - and I'm not going to cry like a little baby when you guys do the same (though I'll certainly concern-troll to anybody I come into contact with in an attempt to undermine you).

And the right doesn't control anything - that's what we are going to take care of in 2018. If you think the GOP ever had any intention to repeal Obamacare there's some ocean front property in Atlanta I'd like to sell you.

Nah, what you mean to say here is that "we're completely incompetent and so I'm gonna pass off ownership of this shat-mess until the next election".

Spoiler alert: ain't gonna get any better! You guys are a fycking embarrassment and the notion of a "conservative who knows show to govern" is an oxymoron in and of itself: in your quest for ideological perfection and purity, you've purged anybody who actually knows the first thing about policy and governance. Turns out when you have nobody but a bunch of people who hate government and scream about ideology alone, you wind up with a bunch of people who don't know how to operate it.

That's why your party has total control and still can't pass even the most basic, widely-agreed upon conservative orthodoxy like tax cuts and repealing socialism.
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2017, 04:58:44 PM »

The difference is that Trump's motto isn't "When they go low - we go high" or "Love Trumps Hate."

See what I am saying now? When they go from "When they go low - we go high" and "Love Trumps Hate" to "They're aholes who should get rat f-ed in every corner!" it's hard to take them seriously. They prove every caricature about leftists.

No, you fycking dolt: there are plenty of people on my side who legitimately believe that pie-in-the-sky, "let's be nice and cordial and respectful" nonsense. I'm not one of them. I fight with them all the time over their inherently inferior and weak beliefs because we no longer live in a world where the GOP respects basic human decency.

I'm sorry that you can't accept that literally everybody in the actual majority of a country of 325 million people doesn't have the exact same views and strategies.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2017, 05:05:45 PM »

We don't even have 60 votes and people like McCain and Collins are worse than Democrats. RINO hunting is going to be fun in 2018 and 2020.

WAAAAAH

WAAAAAH

Excuses, excuses. Your party had the opportunity to eliminate the filibuster (as did mine). Mine didn't because they're spineless cowards. Yours didn't because they're incompetent.

And LOL, you guys have lost more Senate seats due to successful primary challenges in the past 8 years than you've won in the general.  

Besides, it appears somebody hasn't gotten the memo: the Tea Party is dead, "True Conservatives" are absolutely fycking useless post-2014 (say hello to President Cruz for me!) and your Stoßtruppen merely follow whatever Der Führer says is the right approach. The only thing "conservative" remaining in the GOP is the policies that relate to how many minorities and "others" you can figuratively string up. Those policies are the only metric by which you can say conservatives "won" in 2016. Trump was less of a "conservative" on virtually every single issue outside of that.
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2017, 05:09:02 PM »

weak beliefs because we no longer live in a world where the GOP respects basic human decency.

And you do? See? You contradict yourself within the same sentence.

When your actions betray your ENTIRE belief system it's time to change some things. The GOP wants you to find a job, and you hate that.

I'm not one to shy away from effective tactics: literally the whole fycking point I've been making this entire time, dum-dum.

My belief system remains intact...for those who actually believe in its core premise. Just like your ilk who doesn't believe that the core tenets of democracy, freedom and respect can be extended to radical extremists - because they don't believe in the core concept - neither do I.

Equality, justice and tolerance are reserved for those who believe in the concept for all. If you don't participate, you don't get a participation trophy, after all!
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2017, 05:11:04 PM »

Once you went full Godwin, the argument is over.

Once you guys elected a fascist and literally change your beliefs on a dime to fit whatever he says, it came back into style.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2017, 05:14:35 PM »

Once you went full Godwin, the argument is over.

Once you guys elected a fascist and literally change your beliefs on a dime to fit whatever he says, it came back into style.

Once you called Romney a fascist the "omg the Republican is a Nazi!!!!111" jumped the shark.

Now it just gets me to lol.

When did I say Romney was a fascist, you twit?
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2017, 05:16:05 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2017, 05:19:56 PM »

't believe that the core tenets of democracy, freedom and respect can be extended to radical extremists -

And you do?

LOL! You're doing ANOTHER thing Leftists do a lot - say that people who don't agree with you "threaten democracy." And when I say "leftists," I mean the socialist/crazy type. Not normal liberals.

Suppression of freedom of the press, voter disenfranchisement, constitutional conventions designed to repeal any semblance of direct democracy remaining in our institutions, aggressive gerrymandering that renders 90% of legislative elections pointless, building walls around us to keep citizens both in and out, discrimination along every line that impacts a minority of disenfranchised group --

Why go on, though? You're just going to deflect.
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2017, 05:21:49 PM »

When did I say Romney was a fascist, you twit?

Now ANOTHER denial. In 2012, Romney was a monster who wanted to literally put black people back into slavery, and now he's just a guy Democrats had policy disputes with.

And why is it that every leftist considers an attack against their beliefs an "attack on democracy?" Strange! People like you only care about democracy when people vote for what you want (what you're told you want).

Rewriting history and only accepting the votes of people who agree with you. What does this sound like?

Allow me to spell it out for you like you're a second grader.

When. Did. I. Me. Myself. This Poster You're Talking to. Say. That. Romney. Was. A. Fascist?

If you don't know how to have a debate with somebody without attributing literally every single thing somebody else may have said to that one person's statements and thoughts, then you should've been aborted.
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2017, 05:22:18 PM »

You called me a dirty name for no reason and are mad I called you out on it. You're used to conservatives who will simply back down. Not anymore. You're used to fighting Romney-type Republicans (like the guy from Virginia), but I am a Trump right winger. I fight back.

You literally haven't called me on anything. You've spent this entire time arguing with a fictional/generic leftist and accusing me of whatever they did or said.

Also, learn how to quote, you cretin.
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2017, 05:23:54 PM »

You're used to fighting Romney-type Republicans (like the guy from Virginia), but I am a Trump right winger. I fight back.

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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2017, 05:27:07 PM »

No, Democrats objectively do not gerrymander as much. That's why during the New Deal era and the domination of Democrats at the state level, the percentage of competitive seats was much higher than post-2010.

Walls keep people out, walls keep people in - especially when you have a fascist running the show.

The Left doesn't threaten - as Trump did literally today! - to go after the licenses for media outlets to operate. That is government-sanctioned suppression of the free press.

And I don't give a fyck about California. It is a Democratic state through and through and would be any day of the week regardless of any measures passed or not. The nation, however, isn't a GOP country and yet the machinations have led us to be represented by them.
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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2017, 05:27:41 PM »

You literally haven't called me on anything. You've spent this entire time arguing with a fictional/generic leftist and accusing me of whatever they did or said.

Also, learn how to quote, you cretin.

I am not accusing you of anything.

You are SHOWING me it.

Find employment.

>3:27 PM in CA, dude raging online during business hours

>6:27 PM in GA, dude raging online after work
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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2017, 05:30:22 PM »

You literally haven't called me on anything. You've spent this entire time arguing with a fictional/generic leftist and accusing me of whatever they did or said.

Also, learn how to quote, you cretin.

I am not accusing you of anything.

You are SHOWING me it.

Find employment.

>3:27 PM in CA, dude raging online during business hours

>6:27 PM in GA, dude raging online after work

I lived in Atlanta for a couple years and it was one of the most disgusting places I've ever been to.

Reminded me why to never vote Democrat.

Go ahead and say it: you'll feel better once you're being intellectually honest with everybody:

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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2017, 05:32:45 PM »

No, Democrats objectively do not gerrymander as much.

So they do?

Thanks for playing. take this L.

"BOTH SIDES DO IT"
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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2017, 05:33:38 PM »

Go ahead and say it: you'll feel better once you're being intellectually honest with everybody:



Using the n-word are we?

I am disgusted, and won't lower myself to your level.

Tell me which makes you more "disgusted":

"Atlanta", or your feelings right now?
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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2017, 05:37:02 PM »

I love how dude gets called out for his hysterics and is now pretending to be cool, calm and collective instead of ranting about magical Democrats who are not even participating in this thread.
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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2017, 05:38:38 PM »

Go ahead and say it: you'll feel better once you're being intellectually honest with everybody:



Using the n-word are we?

I am disgusted, and won't lower myself to your level.

Tell me which makes you more "disgusted":

"Atlanta", or your feelings right now?

Atlanta in the 90s (when I lived there) literally had the highest crime rate in the USA.

Now it's MY fault that happened.

And you used the n-word - I haven't and won't. I live in a diverse area and I respect all people. I noticed socialists on Reddit always use the n-word as well.

You used the n-word when you called Atlanta "disgusting". We all know what that shit means, dum-dum. This isn't 1965. Just because I'm holding a mirror up to your nasty face doesn't mean I'm responsible for the reflection.

Go ahead and share with us your thoughts about "Chicago" and "Detroit" while you're at it, too. Maybe we can even get a dialogue going about "inner city crime" and "urban thugs"!
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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2017, 05:39:37 PM »

Democrats could have won the House popular vote by double digits and would still have lost because of gerrymandering. That's a fact.

Chicago: http://www.illinoisobserver.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/illinois-4th-district-map-gerrymandering.jpg

And the Republicans would win every election if we had voter ID laws.

Pretty big words for a party that hasn't managed to get its foot in the White House with the most votes in 30 years.
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« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2017, 05:46:10 PM »

You used the n-word when you called Atlanta "disgusting". We all know what that shit means, dum-dum. This isn't 1965. Just because I'm holding a mirror up to your nasty face doesn't mean I'm responsible for the reflection.

Go ahead and share with us your thoughts about "Chicago" and "Detroit" while you're at it, too. Maybe we can even get a dialogue going about "inner city crime" and "urban thugs"!

1. You used the n-word, not me. You're the only who used a racist term.

2. Atlanta according to Morgan Quitno had the highest crime rate in the country in the mid-90s (when I lived there). WTF are you talking about "this isn't 1965" for?!

The fact of the matter is, Democrats have ruined every city they've ruled over. Kansas City was another dump I've lived in and it's majority white.

Nah, I posted an image of a quote from one of your party's modern architects - who did the exact same thing you're doing now. Except he was intellectually honest at some point about his arguments, instead of vaguely referring to "rat slums", "urban third world conditions", "disgusting" cities and all the other coded language you racists use to talk about black people.

Then you have the audacity to try and say I'm the one insinuating this? LMAO - only racist conservatives buy into the "You're the real racist" nonsense, because it's the only deflection you have. You guys really hate being called on your shit, and when somebody holds the mirror up to your face, you freak out.
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« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2017, 05:47:47 PM »

^^^ Whoops, forgot to mention the "some of my best cities are white!" attempt there, lol.
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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2017, 05:49:28 PM »

1965: the beginning of the era where the GOP could talk openly about "ghettos", "welfare queens", "young bucks", "states rights" and subconsciously communicate the n-word chant without anybody calling them out on it. That era is over.
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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2017, 05:50:53 PM »

Nah, I posted an image of a quote from one of your party's modern architects - who did the exact same thing you're doing now. Except he was intellectually honest at some point about his arguments, instead of vaguely referring to "rat slums", "urban third world conditions", "disgusting" cities and all the other coded language you racists use to talk about black people.

Then you have the audacity to try and say I'm the one insinuating this? LMAO - only racist conservatives buy into the "You're the real racist" nonsense, because it's the only deflection you have. You guys really hate being called on your shit, and when somebody holds the mirror up to your face, you freak out.

Nah I have always lived in very diverse areas - unlike Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and Barack Obama. It's obvious why I mentioned Atlanta - you're from Georgia. If you were from Indiana I would've said Indianapolis, Minnesota I would have said Minneapolis.

My actions speak louder than words. I have fought for equality my whole life (I actually learned Spanish for that reason). While most Democrats abandoned this city I decided to learn Spanish and help people here.

And I will continue to fight for it. Just like Trump.



Yes, how benevolent of you to just assume that any poster conveniently lives in the "most urban" part of a particular state. Also quite convenient!
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