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Boris Johnson   -20 (29.9%)
David Davis   -11 (16.4%)
Amber Rudd   -4 (6%)
Philip Hammond   -1 (1.5%)
Ruth Davidson   -1 (1.5%)
Jacob Rees-Mogg   -19 (28.4%)
Damian Green   -0 (0%)
Priti Patel   -4 (6%)
Liam Fox (joke option)   -0 (0%)
Michael Gove (see above)   -2 (3%)
Other vaguely prominent Tory   -1 (1.5%)
Somebody literally nobody has ever heard of   -4 (6%)
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« on: October 08, 2017, 06:52:04 am »

Assuming she won't face the next election, who will face the next election? My money is on Rudd, but in a different seat.
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2017, 06:56:54 am »

Damn, the Tories are screwed. I think it definitely would have been Davis if he were younger, but he's already almost 69. Still voted Davis, I guess he will be the compromise candidate.
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2017, 07:30:31 am »

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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2017, 08:15:10 am »

I'd like to see Truss or Morgan.
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2017, 08:21:49 am »

My money's is that it will be either Patel or someone like Dominic Raab. I don't see how Rudd will be able to win the membership vote.
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2017, 02:46:24 pm »

My money's is that it will be either Patel or someone like Dominic Raab. I don't see how Rudd will be able to win the membership vote.

Do you think Gove will become Chancellor or something pretty good if a former supporter like Raab or Morgan wins the leadership?
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2017, 04:40:37 pm »

Top five on Betfair for “next Conservative leader”:

Johnson 16.8
Davis 14.5
Rudd 11.9
Rees-Mogg 11.1
Davidson 7.2
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2017, 07:10:25 pm »

Top five on Betfair for “next Conservative leader”:

Johnson 16.8
Davis 14.5
Rudd 11.9
Rees-Mogg 11.1
Davidson 7.2

There is -5% of it being Davidson and Rees-Mogg is just lol

Johnson is becoming rash and might not have as many friends as he might wish for the forthcoming race. Rudd's seat is an issue but Soames might shuffle off to let her have his so not as big a one as appears. It will be Davis or bust. Hammond doesn't really have a chance, he angers people because he favours both austerity and softer Brexit.
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2017, 07:14:21 pm »

Top five on Betfair for “next Conservative leader”:

Johnson 16.8
Davis 14.5
Rudd 11.9
Rees-Mogg 11.1
Davidson 7.2

There is -5% of it being Davidson and Rees-Mogg is just lol

Johnson is becoming rash and might not have as many friends as he might wish for the forthcoming race. Rudd's seat is an issue but Soames might shuffle off to let her have his so not as big a one as appears. It will be Davis or bust. Hammond doesn't really have a chance, he angers people because he favours both austerity and softer Brexit.

He is nearly 69. Isn't that a problem?
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2017, 07:16:03 pm »

Johnson all the way. Rudd is a decent choice, but she needs to find a better seat as hers is one of most vulnerable and considering the swings in her neck of the woods I could see a scenario of the Tories winning nationally but losing her seat.
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2017, 07:25:26 pm »

Top five on Betfair for “next Conservative leader”:

Johnson 16.8
Davis 14.5
Rudd 11.9
Rees-Mogg 11.1
Davidson 7.2

There is -5% of it being Davidson and Rees-Mogg is just lol

Johnson is becoming rash and might not have as many friends as he might wish for the forthcoming race. Rudd's seat is an issue but Soames might shuffle off to let her have his so not as big a one as appears. It will be Davis or bust. Hammond doesn't really have a chance, he angers people because he favours both austerity and softer Brexit.

He is nearly 69. Isn't that a problem?
Not particularly if he's elected on the basis of 'sorting Brexit out'.
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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2017, 09:18:33 pm »

Top five on Betfair for “next Conservative leader”:

Johnson 16.8
Davis 14.5
Rudd 11.9
Rees-Mogg 11.1
Davidson 7.2

There is -5% of it being Davidson and Rees-Mogg is just lol

Johnson is becoming rash and might not have as many friends as he might wish for the forthcoming race. Rudd's seat is an issue but Soames might shuffle off to let her have his so not as big a one as appears. It will be Davis or bust. Hammond doesn't really have a chance, he angers people because he favours both austerity and softer Brexit.

He is nearly 69. Isn't that a problem?

How many inappropriate jokes would there be?
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2017, 09:25:06 pm »

Top five on Betfair for “next Conservative leader”:

Johnson 16.8
Davis 14.5
Rudd 11.9
Rees-Mogg 11.1
Davidson 7.2

There is -5% of it being Davidson and Rees-Mogg is just lol

Johnson is becoming rash and might not have as many friends as he might wish for the forthcoming race. Rudd's seat is an issue but Soames might shuffle off to let her have his so not as big a one as appears. It will be Davis or bust. Hammond doesn't really have a chance, he angers people because he favours both austerity and softer Brexit.

He is nearly 69. Isn't that a problem?

Considering that Corbyn is 68 and Cable is 74, no, probably not
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2017, 02:28:27 am »

Anyway, if it's not Davis I think it will be Patel, Raab or some very right-wing politician nobody has ever heard of. The anyone but Boris faction is too strong, and I can't see someone like Rudd or Hammond winning.
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2017, 03:22:17 am »

I'd like to see Truss or Morgan.

Morgan has become far too much of a rent a gob Remainer to be given power (mostly because she makes no secret about the fact she personally loathes May); and Truss was widely considered over her head as Justice Sec.
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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2017, 04:39:06 am »

I saw Amber Rudd on the election coverage and have since followed her on Twitter. She's very impressive.
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« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2017, 06:34:03 am »

Top five on Betfair for “next Conservative leader”:

Johnson 16.8
Davis 14.5
Rudd 11.9
Rees-Mogg 11.1
Davidson 7.2

There is -5% of it being Davidson and Rees-Mogg is just lol

Johnson is becoming rash and might not have as many friends as he might wish for the forthcoming race. Rudd's seat is an issue but Soames might shuffle off to let her have his so not as big a one as appears. It will be Davis or bust. Hammond doesn't really have a chance, he angers people because he favours both austerity and softer Brexit.

He is nearly 69. Isn't that a problem?

Considering that Corbyn is 68 and Cable is 74, no, probably not

Cable isn't the leader of a major party, and Corbyn (like Sanders) is a special case as they both appeal to young people and have a backstory that makes them more "authentic" than their rivals.
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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2017, 05:45:19 pm »

Boris seems to be doing everything he can to get sacked by May. For reasons obvious.
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2017, 04:56:03 am »

There is absolutely no way they will put Rees-Mogg up there, not even against Corbyn.

I think most MPs wouldn't want this going to the membership so they will rally around David Davis (is that the most Welsh name ever?) to block Boris the Clown 
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2017, 06:16:40 am »

There is absolutely no way they will put Rees-Mogg up there, not even against Corbyn.

I think most MPs wouldn't want this going to the membership so they will rally around David Davis (is that the most Welsh name ever?) to block Boris the Clown 

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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2017, 10:49:03 am »

I saw Amber Rudd on the election coverage and have since followed her on Twitter. She's very impressive.

Her biggest obstacle is her constituency of Hastings and Rye was a very close marginal and she only won by around 300 votes and there was a bigger swing towards Labour so there is a real risk she could lose her seat while the Tories still win nationally.  At least with Boris Johnson, if he loses his seat, the Tories would almost certainly lose nationally, but agreed she is quite reasonable.  I've often found those in more marginal constituencies tend to be more moderate while the more right wing elements in the party are mostly in very safe constituencies.  Similar with Labour too.
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2017, 02:02:49 pm »

Johnson or Patel.

I like Patel. She'd be the next Thatcher, and someone who can clearly communicate conservative principles in a ruthless, but honest way.

Johnson is seen as too much of a political animal.
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2017, 02:46:14 pm »

Johnson or Patel.

I like Patel. She'd be the next Thatcher, and someone who can clearly communicate conservative principles in a ruthless, but honest way.

Johnson is seen as too much of a political animal.

Not sure the UK is ready for a non-white PM.
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2017, 02:50:11 pm »

Johnson or Patel.

I like Patel. She'd be the next Thatcher, and someone who can clearly communicate conservative principles in a ruthless, but honest way.

Johnson is seen as too much of a political animal.

Not sure the UK is ready for a non-white PM.
I'm pretty sure that if America can elect a non-white president from the left-leaning party, Britain can accept a non-white PM from the right-leaning party.
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2017, 03:28:21 pm »

Johnson or Patel.

I like Patel. She'd be the next Thatcher, and someone who can clearly communicate conservative principles in a ruthless, but honest way.

Johnson is seen as too much of a political animal.

Not sure the UK is ready for a non-white PM.
I'm pretty sure that if America can elect a non-white president from the left-leaning party, Britain can accept a non-white PM from the right-leaning party.

Not comparable. The Democrats won despite losing whites, no British party can afford to lose their (much larger) majority population.
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