Pence walks out of NFL game in temper tantrum over Kneeling players

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

God Bless Vice President Pence and his family.  Now, more than ever, I see that he needs to be leading this nation.

F**k Vice President pence and his family. Now, more than ever, I see that this entire administration is one big joke to our nation.

What a proud moderate and respectable person!

Being a moderate doesn't make you obligated to like dumb public gestures or support dumb extremist politicians.

[DrScholl]

Good way to deflect from the first job losses in 7 years.

[Alabama_Indy10]

God Bless Vice President Pence and his family.  Now, more than ever, I see that he needs to be leading this nation.

F**k Vice President pence and his family. Now, more than ever, I see that this entire administration is one big joke to our nation.

What a proud moderate and respectable person!

Being a moderate doesn't make you obligated to like dumb public gestures or support dumb extremist politicians.

I was talking about his words to VP Pence and his family.. a real class act!

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Good way to deflect from the first job losses in 7 years.

There;s no serious economist who thinks that wasn't because of Harvey and Irma.

[DrScholl]

Good way to deflect from the first job losses in 7 years.

There;s no serious economist who thinks that wasn't because of Harvey and Irma.

There were no job losses after any of the hurricanes that occurred during Obama's administration. Trump was supposed to be this outstanding businessman that would create great prosperity, yet we see job losses not even a year into his term. Maybe there is some validity to the hurricane claim, but politically it's a poor excuse. When you build yourself up as so grand, there are no excuses for job losses.

[ProudModerate2]

God Bless Vice President Pence and his family.  Now, more than ever, I see that he needs to be leading this nation.

F**k Vice President pence and his family. Now, more than ever, I see that this entire administration is one big joke to our nation.

What a proud moderate and respectable person!

Being a moderate doesn't make you obligated to like dumb public gestures or support dumb extremist politicians.

I was talking about his words to VP Pence and his family.. a real class act!

Well, we have to keep up with the "classiness" of trump and his administration.
trump just loves to attack other people's "family," so we should all be emulating the New Fuhrer God (I'm sure you agree with this, as you are a trump cultist).
You know like when trump's past tweet in the primaries, insulting the appearance of Cruz’s wife, Heidi Cruz.
Or when trump linked Cruz's father to the assassination of JFK.
All perfectly acceptable things to you, except when someone else does them.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Good way to deflect from the first job losses in 7 years.

There;s no serious economist who thinks that wasn't because of Harvey and Irma.

There were no job losses after any of the hurricanes that occurred during Obama's administration. Trump was supposed to be this outstanding businessman that would create great prosperity, yet we see job losses not even a year into his term. Maybe there is some validity to the hurricane claim, but politically it's a poor excuse. When you build yourself up as so grand, there are no excuses for job losses.

Trump can trash Obama's record with no evidence or context or outright lies, but Trump's failures have to be explained with nuance and complexity.

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

Good way to deflect from the first job losses in 7 years.

There;s no serious economist who thinks that wasn't because of Harvey and Irma.

There were no job losses after any of the hurricanes that occurred during Obama's administration. Trump was supposed to be this outstanding businessman that would create great prosperity, yet we see job losses not even a year into his term. Maybe there is some validity to the hurricane claim, but politically it's a poor excuse. When you build yourself up as so grand, there are no excuses for job losses.

Are you being serious? Attributing the job losses during one of the worst hurricane months of this century, which hit population centers in two of the largest states in the country, to anything other than hurricanes is r/the_donald or Breitbart levels of stupid. Like, I don't like Trump either but come on man. September is typically a month with job "losses" because college and high school kids are coming off summer vacations. Add to that the fact that Florida had gas stations that went over a week without getting gas and Houston was underwater for days and it's pretty obvious how there were job losses in September.

[TheSaint250]

Good way to deflect from the first job losses in 7 years.

There;s no serious economist who thinks that wasn't because of Harvey and Irma.

There were no job losses after any of the hurricanes that occurred during Obama's administration. Trump was supposed to be this outstanding businessman that would create great prosperity, yet we see job losses not even a year into his term. Maybe there is some validity to the hurricane claim, but politically it's a poor excuse. When you build yourself up as so grand, there are no excuses for job losses.

Are you being serious? Attributing the job losses during one of the worst hurricane months of this century, which hit population centers in two of the largest states in the country, to anything other than hurricanes is r/the_donald or Breitbart levels of stupid. Like, I don't like Trump either but come on man. September is typically a month with job "losses" because college and high school kids are coming off summer vacations. Add to that the fact that Florida had gas stations that went over a week without getting gas and Houston was underwater for days and it's pretty obvious how there were job losses in September.

To add on to this, has Trump even done anything economics-related?

[GeorgiaModerate]

Good way to deflect from the first job losses in 7 years.

There;s no serious economist who thinks that wasn't because of Harvey and Irma.

There were no job losses after any of the hurricanes that occurred during Obama's administration. Trump was supposed to be this outstanding businessman that would create great prosperity, yet we see job losses not even a year into his term. Maybe there is some validity to the hurricane claim, but politically it's a poor excuse. When you build yourself up as so grand, there are no excuses for job losses.

Exactly zero major hurricanes hit the mainland US during the Obama years.  The last one before Harvey was Ike in 2008.  Come on.

Good way to deflect from the first job losses in 7 years.

There;s no serious economist who thinks that wasn't because of Harvey and Irma.

There were no job losses after any of the hurricanes that occurred during Obama's administration. Trump was supposed to be this outstanding businessman that would create great prosperity, yet we see job losses not even a year into his term. Maybe there is some validity to the hurricane claim, but politically it's a poor excuse. When you build yourself up as so grand, there are no excuses for job losses.

Are you being serious? Attributing the job losses during one of the worst hurricane months of this century, which hit population centers in two of the largest states in the country, to anything other than hurricanes is r/the_donald or Breitbart levels of stupid. Like, I don't like Trump either but come on man. September is typically a month with job "losses" because college and high school kids are coming off summer vacations. Add to that the fact that Florida had gas stations that went over a week without getting gas and Houston was underwater for days and it's pretty obvious how there were job losses in September.

FTR, there were exactly zero major hurricanes to hit the mainland US during the Obama years. The last one before Harvey was Ike in 2008.

[Alabama_Indy10]

God Bless Vice President Pence and his family.  Now, more than ever, I see that he needs to be leading this nation.

F**k Vice President pence and his family. Now, more than ever, I see that this entire administration is one big joke to our nation.

What a proud moderate and respectable person!

Being a moderate doesn't make you obligated to like dumb public gestures or support dumb extremist politicians.

I was talking about his words to VP Pence and his family.. a real class act!

Well, we have to keep up with the "classiness" of trump and his administration.
trump just loves to attack other people's "family," so we should all be emulating the New Fuhrer God (I'm sure you agree with this, as you are a trump cultist).
You know like when trump's past tweet in the primaries, insulting the appearance of Cruz’s wife, Heidi Cruz.
Or when trump linked Cruz's father to the assassination of JFK.
All perfectly acceptable things to you, except when someone else does them.

Oh man! I can’t believe this “proud moderate” knows more about my political views than myself! I was disgusted by Trump’s comments about his opponents families. You should never go after someone’s family. I would say that to President Trump just as I said it to you.

[DrScholl]

Good way to deflect from the first job losses in 7 years.

There;s no serious economist who thinks that wasn't because of Harvey and Irma.

There were no job losses after any of the hurricanes that occurred during Obama's administration. Trump was supposed to be this outstanding businessman that would create great prosperity, yet we see job losses not even a year into his term. Maybe there is some validity to the hurricane claim, but politically it's a poor excuse. When you build yourself up as so grand, there are no excuses for job losses.

Are you being serious? Attributing the job losses during one of the worst hurricane months of this century, which hit population centers in two of the largest states in the country, to anything other than hurricanes is r/the_donald or Breitbart levels of stupid. Like, I don't like Trump either but come on man. September is typically a month with job "losses" because college and high school kids are coming off summer vacations. Add to that the fact that Florida had gas stations that went over a week without getting gas and Houston was underwater for days and it's pretty obvious how there were job losses in September.

These excuses would never fly under a Democrat, never. Politically, job losses of any kind are not going to be viewed kindly by the average person, who does not subscribe to the excuses game. With that said, I'm not going to argue back and forth about it.

[Kingpoleon]

Days without national embarrassment: 0

Good for Pence!

These kneelers are anti-American.  They hate America.  They deserve to experience the negative feedback from the millions they've offended by their behavior.  If their income streams from endorsements all dry up, I wouldn't shed a tear.

I swear to God, the next time I go to a sporting event, I'm going to kneel during the anthem knowing how much that offends you and the other bitches on this forum.

I dislike sporting events on the grounds that the athletes generally lead sad lives - money, power, and fame are too much for young, male athletes. Surely protesting our society's destruction of hundreds of young men's lives would be a better reason, as well as our society's suicidal tactics by the adoration and strong emotional bonds that it places upon sports and fans.

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

Good way to deflect from the first job losses in 7 years.

There;s no serious economist who thinks that wasn't because of Harvey and Irma.

There were no job losses after any of the hurricanes that occurred during Obama's administration. Trump was supposed to be this outstanding businessman that would create great prosperity, yet we see job losses not even a year into his term. Maybe there is some validity to the hurricane claim, but politically it's a poor excuse. When you build yourself up as so grand, there are no excuses for job losses.

Are you being serious? Attributing the job losses during one of the worst hurricane months of this century, which hit population centers in two of the largest states in the country, to anything other than hurricanes is r/the_donald or Breitbart levels of stupid. Like, I don't like Trump either but come on man. September is typically a month with job "losses" because college and high school kids are coming off summer vacations. Add to that the fact that Florida had gas stations that went over a week without getting gas and Houston was underwater for days and it's pretty obvious how there were job losses in September.

These excuses would never fly under a Democrat, never. Politically, job losses of any kind are not going to be viewed kindly by the average person, who does not subscribe to the excuses game.

Please please please do not sacrifice your rational decision making abilities and judgement because you're butthurt that Republicans lie and get away with it.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Days without national embarrassment: 0

Good for Pence!

These kneelers are anti-American.  They hate America.  They deserve to experience the negative feedback from the millions they've offended by their behavior.  If their income streams from endorsements all dry up, I wouldn't shed a tear.

I swear to God, the next time I go to a sporting event, I'm going to kneel during the anthem knowing how much that offends you and the other bitches on this forum.

I dislike sporting events on the grounds that the athletes generally lead sad lives - money, power, and fame are too much for young, male athletes. Surely protesting our society's destruction of hundreds of young men's lives would be a better reason, as well as our society's suicidal tactics by the adoration and strong emotional bonds that it places upon sports and fans.

I would agree in that Real Americans like Fuzz here see these people as their field ni*gers.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Good way to deflect from the first job losses in 7 years.

There;s no serious economist who thinks that wasn't because of Harvey and Irma.

There were no job losses after any of the hurricanes that occurred during Obama's administration.

That's  like comparing grapes to grapefruit. Obama was fortunate in that he had to deal with only one major storm making landfall in the U.S., Sandy. Trump has had three, Harvey, Irma, and Maria, and in the case of Irma and Maria, they happened in areas where sending in help afterwards was noticeably more difficult than where Sandy made landfall. Harvey is the wettest hurricane to ever have made a U.S. landfall. Also, the economy in the areas Trump's multiple storms have hit was far more dependent upon the agricultural and tourism jobs that hurricanes typically have the largest impact upon.

Even without a final accounting of the damages, Harvey, Irma, and Maria, all look to be among the five most costly hurricanes to have hit the U.S., and they may displace Katrina and Sandy from their positions as the most costly and second-most costly hurricanes. (I'm currently expecting Katrina to remain number one and Sandy to fall to number four.)

Trump has been dealt a bad hand here and he did okay with Harvey and Irma, tho not more than that, just okay. Where he dropped the ball was with Maria, which isn't going to affect U.S. job numbers, since they don't include Puerto Rico. Harvey and Irma only required Trump to go thru the motions.  Maria required more than that and not only did Trump fail to do so, he wasted his time and energy on making asinine comments about Puerto Ricans and playing fetch the paper towels with them.

[Virginiá]

To add on to this, has Trump even done anything economics-related?

I think the most you could attribute to him is businesses making decisions in anticipation of a deregulation and tax cut bonanza. Even with that, there doesn't seem to be anything substantially different from 2016 in terms of jobs. Other than that, Trump & Co. have not really done much of anything the entire year.

[TheSaint250]

To add on to this, has Trump even done anything economics-related?

I think the most you could attribute to him is businesses making decisions in anticipation of a deregulation and tax cut bonanza. Even with that, there doesn't seem to be anything substantially different from 2016 in terms of jobs. Other than that, Trump & Co. have not really done much of anything the entire year.

Yeah, it's pretty disappointing for what I was expecting back in January. But that's long gone.

Anyway, when is it usually that the previous president's economic impact wears off?

[Virginiá]

^I think by the new fiscal year, when we are already in (technically, at least). Although I think there is an assumption that the new governing party will have passed a decent number of reforms by then, including a new budget. For 2017, it might as well be assumed that the country has been on auto-pilot since 2016.

[TheSaint250]

^I think by the new fiscal year, when we are already in (technically, at least). Although I think there is an assumption that the new governing party will have passed a decent number of reforms by then, including a new budget. For 2017, it might as well be assumed that the country has been on auto-pilot since 2016.

Ah ok. Thank you

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Trump undid a bunch of last-minute regulations imposed by executive orders in Obama's last six months, most famously an order that would have required state taxes to fund certain planned parenthood services. But he hasn't had any sort of big jobs bill yet, and we are still using the 2016 budget (with a little bit more money for border security and defense) until at least December.

[Beet]

Good for Pence!

These kneelers are anti-American.  They hate America.  They deserve to experience the negative feedback from the millions they've offended by their behavior.  If their income streams from endorsements all dry up, I wouldn't shed a tear.

Where was all this conservative outrage against political statements on the job when the NYPD turned their backs on de Blasio?

Can't wait until these anti-freedom couch goblins are irrelevant.

The American flag is not the same thing as the mayor of New York City. One is a man, the other is the designated symbol of national unity. Not that I think Fuzzy has any ground to stand on, as I've made clear in the past. He supported a guy who knowingly invited foreign intelligence to attack American citizens, and enjoyed it, on national TV.

The American flag is a symbol of this nation, and kneeling to protest injustice is one of the most American things you can do.

I tend to think that police officers shooting African-Americans in the back is a lot more disrespectful than an abstract act of protest, but expecting the orangutan in the White House (or Fuzzy Bear) to care about the former is clearly futile.

Sure, but you're kneeling against the flag, which represents all that is American, including, ironically, protest itself. You're also politicizing something (sports) that shouldn't be politicized. Trump himself just fanned the flames before the start of the season with his comments in Alabama. Before that, only one tight end kneeled on August 21, 2017. Now it's become a massive controversy. I think Trump is actually happy that the players are protesting, because this is the kind of racial division that he enjoys and which helps him.

[ProudModerate2]

God Bless Vice President Pence and his family.  Now, more than ever, I see that he needs to be leading this nation.

F**k Vice President pence and his family. Now, more than ever, I see that this entire administration is one big joke to our nation.

What a proud moderate and respectable person!

Being a moderate doesn't make you obligated to like dumb public gestures or support dumb extremist politicians.

I was talking about his words to VP Pence and his family.. a real class act!

Well, we have to keep up with the "classiness" of trump and his administration.
trump just loves to attack other people's "family," so we should all be emulating the New Fuhrer God (I'm sure you agree with this, as you are a trump cultist).
You know like when trump's past tweet in the primaries, insulting the appearance of Cruz’s wife, Heidi Cruz.
Or when trump linked Cruz's father to the assassination of JFK.
All perfectly acceptable things to you, except when someone else does them.

Oh man! I can’t believe this “proud moderate” knows more about my political views than myself! I was disgusted by Trump’s comments about his opponents families. You should never go after someone’s family. I would say that to President Trump just as I said it to you.

But of course.
That is why we all remember the massive outrage in your posts when the Orange-Haired Clown said those things (sarcasm).

[Alabama_Indy10]

Check my registration date my man.

[ProudModerate2]

Check my registration date my man.

LOL.
If you think you are fooling anyone here, that if you were a member back then, we would have seen "outrage posts" from you .... forget it !
You are a trump cultist .... get used to that label.