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« on: October 08, 2017, 08:57:47 PM »
« edited: October 08, 2017, 09:02:30 PM by daveosupremo »

According to Breitbart, Steve Bannon plans to challenge every sitting senator up for re-election in 2018, with the exception of Ted Cruz.  He will also support non-establishment backed candidates in open primaries. He hopes to mimic the success of Roy Moore's insurgent campaign.

Last week, Breitbart went on an all out crusade against Bill Haslam, which may be part of why he decided against running for Corker's seat. Bannon is firmly behind Marsha Blackburn.

The article also suggests he'll be backing Kevin Nicholson over establishment pick Leah Vukmir in Wisconsin, Danny Tarkanian over Dean Heller in Nevada, Kelli Ward over Jeff Flake in Arizona, and Chris McDaniel over Roger Wicker in Mississippi.

Bannon is also supporting Patrick Morrissey in West Virginia, over McConnells pick, Evan Jenkins.

Most interestingly of all, it looks like Erik Prince is eyeing a challenge of John Barasso in Wyoming.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/08/league-extraordinary-candidates-economic-nationalist-leaders-plan-anti-establishment-midterm-tsunami-force-change/
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2017, 08:59:53 PM »

According to Breitbart, Steve Bannon plans to challenge every sitting senator up for re-election in 2018, with the exception of Ted Cruz.  He will also support non-establishment backed candidates in open primaries. He hopes to mimic the success of Roy Moore's insurgent campaign.

Last week, Breitbart went on an all out crusade against Bill Haslam, which may be part of why he decided against running for Corker's seat. Bannon is firmly behind Marsha Blackburn.

The article also suggests he'll be backing Kevin Nicholson over establishment pick Leah Vukmir in Wisconsin, Jerry Tarkanian over Dean Heller in Nevada, Kelli Ward over Jeff Flake in Arizona, and Chris McDaniel over Roger Wicker in Mississippi.

Bannon is also supporting Patrick Morrissey in West Virginia, over McConnells pick, Evan Jenkins.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/08/league-extraordinary-candidates-economic-nationalist-leaders-plan-anti-establishment-midterm-tsunami-force-change/


It's Danny, btw.

But this is pretty interesting.

Hopefully there is not another Tea Party wave to knock out incumbents, though...
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2017, 09:02:02 PM »

According to Breitbart, Steve Bannon plans to challenge every sitting senator up for re-election in 2018, with the exception of Ted Cruz.  He will also support non-establishment backed candidates in open primaries. He hopes to mimic the success of Roy Moore's insurgent campaign.

Last week, Breitbart went on an all out crusade against Bill Haslam, which may be part of why he decided against running for Corker's seat. Bannon is firmly behind Marsha Blackburn.

The article also suggests he'll be backing Kevin Nicholson over establishment pick Leah Vukmir in Wisconsin, Jerry Tarkanian over Dean Heller in Nevada, Kelli Ward over Jeff Flake in Arizona, and Chris McDaniel over Roger Wicker in Mississippi.

Bannon is also supporting Patrick Morrissey in West Virginia, over McConnells pick, Evan Jenkins.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/08/league-extraordinary-candidates-economic-nationalist-leaders-plan-anti-establishment-midterm-tsunami-force-change/


It's Danny, btw.

But this is pretty interesting.

Hopefully there is not another Tea Party wave to knock out incumbents, though...

Oh right, Jerry was his dad. Fixed it.
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2017, 09:03:02 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2017, 09:03:31 PM »

Now we need someone to primary all the establishment in the Democratic party.
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2017, 09:04:28 PM »
« Edited: October 08, 2017, 09:07:13 PM by daveosupremo »

I think it's great. Corker and Heller are both in the top 5 worst Republican senators. I say throw the bums out and force McConnell out of the leader position.

I actually like Barasso, but Erik Prince would really shake up McConnell and his cohorts, and that would be glorious.
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2017, 09:12:10 PM »

Yeah down with the establishment for to long homophobic bible thumpers and war profiteers have forced to sit on the sidelines
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2017, 09:22:30 PM »

Now we need someone to primary all the establishment in the Democratic party.

The fact that the Left is letting anti-MFA Senators from blue states like Cantwell, Cardin, and Carper go unscathed is a travesty. Can someone please phone up Jayapal and Raskin and ask them to give it a go?

Donna Edwards should've been elected last year. Van Hollen's fine, but Donna is fantastic. I wish she were well and was able to primary Cardin.
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2017, 09:46:54 PM »

Now we need someone to primary all the establishment in the Democratic party.

Unfortunately, most of them have penises, so it won't happen.
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2017, 10:22:41 PM »

This is a really bad idea. The Roy Moore thing doesn't matter because it's Alabama, but in more competitive states primarying the incumbent is just throwing away incumbency advantage and makes it harder to win.
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2017, 12:39:38 AM »

Honestly, I can't think of a potential Bannonite who could challenge either Hatch or Romney. So Bannon might just stay out of Utah, thank goodness.
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2017, 03:16:47 AM »

Interesting strategy on the part of Bannon; challenge the candidates representing the existing donor class by channeling populist furor into support for other candidates representing similar members of the donor class. It's the Trump campaign redux.
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2017, 03:55:44 AM »

Now we need someone to primary all the establishment in the Democratic party.

I mean, do you look at Bannon's crazy candidates like Moore, Ward, Blackburn and the others and think to yourself "that's what I want for the left"? Because your post implies this.
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2017, 10:50:12 AM »

Honestly, I can't think of a potential Bannonite who could challenge either Hatch or Romney. So Bannon might just stay out of Utah, thank goodness.

It's interesting actually, because Bannon likely prefers Hatch to Romney, because Hatch isn't conservative, but he also isn't anti -Trump  like Romney is. Romney is more conservative, but  also more anti-Trump.

The most likely person to get Bannons support is Chris Stewart, who has already said he'll run if Hatch doesn't. He's relatively conservative  (78% Heritage Action score vs Mike Lee's 100% and Orrin Hatch's 33%). It's not clear that he'd run if Romney does though.
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2017, 11:20:11 AM »


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It's worth noting that Prince is also the brother of Betsy DeVos.
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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2017, 11:30:04 AM »

I think it's great. Corker and Heller are both in the top 5 worst Republican senators. I say throw the bums out and force McConnell out of the leader position.

I actually like Barasso, but Erik Prince would really shake up McConnell and his cohorts, and that would be glorious.

Someone with your PM score and from Texas doesn't exactly seem like the first to hop on a bandwagon with STEVE BANNON, haha.  What is wrong with Corker and Heller?  Too dignified in their conservatism?  Not brass enough?  Why do you think these replacements would be better for our party and consrevatism in general?
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« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2017, 02:29:17 PM »

It would be tough in the case of Mississippi. All Wicker needs to do is pull a 2014 Cochran redux and it would be over thanks to the state having open primaries. However, it doesn't mean that McDaniel doesn't stand a chance though.
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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2017, 04:16:47 PM »
« Edited: October 09, 2017, 09:35:17 PM by ProudModerate2 »

Hopefully there is not another Tea Party wave to knock out incumbents, though...

Well I sure hope there is "another Tea Party wave."
Todd Akin, Richard Mourdock and Christine O'Donnell were excellent past candidates for the GOP.
Pubs sure know how to pick them.
(Though I shouldn't laugh to much, since there is a good chance the Senate gets a wacko from Alabama.)
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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2017, 09:16:02 PM »

Bannon's actual power is vastly overstated. Getting behind Danny Tarkanian for his zillionth primary threat isn't going to suddenly turn him into a good candidate. Bannon's strength is that of a man with ideas that are mostly very reasonable criticisms of the Republican establishment. But that doesn't make him a competent campaign strategist.
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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2017, 10:08:39 PM »

Bannon is a blowhard who thinks he has more power than he actually does.
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« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2017, 10:49:57 PM »

It would be tough in the case of Mississippi. All Wicker needs to do is pull a 2014 Cochran redux and it would be over thanks to the state having open primaries. However, it doesn't mean that McDaniel doesn't stand a chance though.


Wicker lacks the weaknesses Cochran had in 2014 though doesn't he?
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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2017, 10:58:05 PM »

I'd prefer establishment GOPs any day to more Roy Moores.
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2017, 06:25:48 AM »

I no longer think there is any chance of Bannon being successful in his quest to dismantle liberal democracy and replace it with a fascist dictatorship, so him ripping apart the GOP and making them more clearly crazy and unelectable sounds great.

I think a key distinction between the establishment GOP and the Bannonites and Tea Partiers is simply one of intelligence. The former are generally fairly clever people while the latter are incredibly dumb. Having dumb Republicans in office makes it harder for them to get things done because they're so incompetent. As long as we have some people with brains running the military and the real diplomacy, that is a good thing.
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2017, 07:45:32 AM »

Very weak slate of candidates. None of these people could honestly be characterized as nationalist. They're generic Tea Party conservatives who will all back amnesty once their re-election campaign needs a check from the Chamber of Commerce.
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2017, 08:25:43 AM »

It would be tough in the case of Mississippi. All Wicker needs to do is pull a 2014 Cochran redux and it would be over thanks to the state having open primaries. However, it doesn't mean that McDaniel doesn't stand a chance though.


Wicker lacks the weaknesses Cochran had in 2014 though doesn't he?

McDaniel internals seem to suggest that he certainly has a lot of work to do in order to bring Wicker down so I wouldn't say that honestly.
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