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Question: Which seems most interesting?
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One Nation, Unbought + Unbought
 
#2
Joe and Joe
 
#3
Don't Stop Thinkin' About Tomorrow
 
#4
Hillary Rodham
 
#5
MICHELLE
 
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« on: October 09, 2017, 03:13:36 PM »

I think I am going to give up on today/future and focus mainly on recent past history timelines; my modern day ones keep getting supplanted by real life events. I am going to finish up Lisa from Alaska.

But which of these timelines seems most interesting.

One Nation, Unbought + Unbossed: Shirley Chisholm's 1972 presidential victory ushers in a progressive revolution, radically altering corporate influence in American politics.

Joe and Joe: Joe Biden and Joe Scarborough await their fate on November 2, 2004 as the Democratic nominees for president and vice president.

Don't Stop Thinkin' About Tomorrow: After a crushing defeat in 1996, former President Bill Clinton is gearing up to run in 2000.

Hillary Rodham: It shocked the world: First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton would leave her husband Bill Clinton in a rage of fury and hurt. But the former lawyer and public figure would plot her own chart to political success, defying odds, continuing to shock the world.

MICHELLE: After Sen. Obama's humiliating defeat in 2008, Michelle Obama sees a leadership role for herself in the progressive movement, resisting the McCain administration.


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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2017, 03:19:50 PM »

One Nation sounds absolutely fantastic.
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2017, 03:21:07 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2017, 03:23:14 PM »

Hillary Rodham, but One Nation sounds awesome too.
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2017, 04:38:19 PM »
« Edited: October 09, 2017, 04:43:07 PM by razze »

Wait....... Can we have all of them?

My preferences, though, are
1. One Nation
2. MICHELLE
3. Hillary Rodham
4. Joe & Joe
5. Bill 2000
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2017, 05:00:53 PM »
« Edited: October 09, 2017, 05:02:42 PM by NJ is Better Than NE »

Wait....... Can we have all of them?

My preferences, though, are
1. One Nation
2. MICHELLE
3. Hillary Rodham
4. Joe & Joe
5. Bill 2000

We could! To some extent, at least.

The 1972 elections were a mess. Incumbent president Richard Nixon is heavily weakened by Watergate, which is discovered earlier than OTL. Meanwhile, to everybody's shock, Shirley Chisholm wins the Democratic primaries and proceeds to defeat the damaged Nixon.

However, the crises of the '70s - the OPEC embargo, stagflation, etc. - go as OTL, and Chisholm has a troubled presidency. Ronald Reagan defeats Chisholm in a landslide - but her brand of progressive politics still remains.

Ronald Reagan wins re-election in 1980 and is succeeded by Geroge HW Bush in 1984. However, thanks to Chisholm's influence on the political left and the increased activism of African American voters, they are forced to be more liberal than in OTL. Also, due to the 12-year itch, Bush is defeated by Michael Dukakis in 1988. Dukakis wins re-election in 1992, but due to an accident he resigns and his VP, Bill Clinton becomes president.

Alas, the bitter Republicans attack Clinton viciously (Whitewater, Monica Lewinsky, etc.), and his troubles culminate in his divorce with Hillary Clinton in 1995. As such, Clinton endures a crushing defeat against George W Bush in 1996. But Clinton is not about to give up so easily. Unfortunately, his troubles return one last time as he is defeated during the primaries by Joe Biden and Joe Scarborough, who go on to win the 2000 election.

The two Double Joe terms go around the same as the younger Bush's term in OTL, which includes the 2008 recession. Senator Barack Obama was touted as a rising star in the Democratic Party, but the anti-Dem environment was too much for him to handle, so he loses to Senator John McCain.

But President McCain is not out of the woods yet. He faces dogged opposition from the Democratic Party, especially by the indomitable Senator Michelle Obama. Plus, rumor has it that Hillary Rodham is gearing up for a run...
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2017, 05:09:20 PM »

Don't Stop Thinking' About Tomorrow sounds pretty good.
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2017, 05:13:27 PM »

Shirley or Hillary. Voted for Shirley.
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