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« on: October 10, 2017, 01:44:28 pm »
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I mean the pick made absolutely no sense what so ever , as Paul Ryan didnt add a single thing to the ticket


- His Medicare Voucher plan was going to obviously alienate Seniors in Florida, and alienate many Blue Collar Workers in Ohio.

- He didnt add an policy background to the ticket(economic policy already was Romney's strong point, it was Foreign Policy and Healthcare which was where he was weak at)

- He never got elected to a state wide office

- He isnt charismatic




It made even less sense than the Palin pick , cause the Palin pick was only made cause McCain needed a hail mary(which either would work spectacularly or fail spectacularly)
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2017, 01:48:21 pm »
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Swing state Wisconsin, that and most people pick based on whom they can work with.

It's not like the needle really gets moved that much anyway.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2017, 02:45:43 pm »
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Swing state Wisconsin, that and most people pick based on whom they can work with.

It's not like the needle really gets moved that much anyway.

But Ryan never won a state wide race in Wisconsin , and anyway Romney needed Florida and Ohio a lot more .
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2017, 02:48:06 pm »
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Swing state Wisconsin, that and most people pick based on whom they can work with.

It's not like the needle really gets moved that much anyway.

But Ryan never won a state wide race in Wisconsin , and anyway Romney needed Florida and Ohio a lot more .

This. He should have went for Rubio.
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2017, 03:59:56 pm »
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Not memeing, but Chris Christie would've been Romney's best bet. He was hugely popular in 2012.
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2017, 06:52:00 pm »
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Young up-and-coming Republican whom the campaign liked and who I suppose they thought would energize the conservative base. Doh!
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2017, 07:02:10 pm »
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Young up-and-coming Republican whom the campaign liked and who I suppose they thought would energize the conservative base. Doh!

Then why not Pick Rubio


The tea party in 2012 liked Rubio a lot


With him on the ticket Romney definitely wins Florida , and likely Virginia and Colorado too meaning 2012 basically comes down to Ohio(Obama still wins 281-257) but Romney  has a much easier path to getting to 270.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2017, 03:36:33 pm »
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Ryan was picked for the same reason Palin was picked and that was to fire up the base (Ryan was well like by the far right at that time). If the GOP went with Rubio instead of Ryan, they would've looked like hypocrites because one of their lines of attack against Obama in 2008 was that he wasn't experienced enough because he was only in the Senate for four years, but Rubio was in the Senate for less than two years in 2012. Paul Ryan was not by any means the best VP choice of the last half a century, but he was also far from the worst (Palin, Eagleton/Shriver, Ferraro, Quayle, and even Lieberman and Edwards were worse).
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2017, 05:43:09 am »
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To shore up his conservative bonafides.
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2017, 09:47:06 am »
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Young up-and-coming Republican whom the campaign liked and who I suppose they thought would energize the conservative base. Doh!
Then why not Pick Rubio

The tea party in 2012 liked Rubio a lot

With him on the ticket Romney definitely wins Florida , and likely Virginia and Colorado too meaning 2012 basically comes down to Ohio(Obama still wins 281-257) but Romney has a much easier path to getting to 270.
How would picking Rubio win him Virginia and Colorado?
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2017, 10:13:03 am »
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At the time of Ryan's selection (late summer), Romney was still very much on the track of trying to win the Midwest to win the election.  It wasn't until September/October that he saw the writing on the wall in Ohio and Michigan and Wisconsin and started shifting more resources back to "traditional" Republican states like FL, VA and CO.

Paul Ryan was a young, conservative legislator from the Midwest who came from a humble background (unlike Romney). 
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