If Cruz was elected President instead of Trump, what would be different?
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« on: October 11, 2017, 04:27:53 PM »
If Cruz was elected President instead of Trump, what would be different?
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2017, 04:34:36 PM »
There would at least be some level of competence...at least enough so that he wouldn’t have us currently on the verge of a major war.

He wouldn’t tweet his every thought.

I seriously doubt there’d have been collusion between his campaign and the Russian government.

There would be no question about his taxes.

He wouldn’t go out of his way to insult others, including foreign leaders.

I don’t believe he’d be a good president. But we would be world’s away from the level we’ve sunk to under Trump.
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2017, 04:35:49 PM »
Congressional Democrats would have considerably less power (not that they have much).
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2017, 05:01:26 PM »
"The Resistance" would not exist. There'd be few protests, no Women's March, and little demand to overturn the election via the electoral college. Charlottesville would not have happened and neither would have the Scalise shooting. Americans would have stopped caring about politics long ago.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2017, 05:34:02 PM »
Embassy in Jerusalem
Iran deal gone
Out of Paris agreement
Mike Lee instead of Gorsuch
Kennedy retired, Gorsuch nominated
Better relationship with congress, no Russia distractions, etc gives more chance for success of aca repeal/ tax reform
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2017, 06:29:27 PM »
The LGBT community would be angry instead of the Mexican and Muslim communities.
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2017, 06:43:10 PM »
Quote from: darklordoftech on October 11, 2017, 06:29:27 PM
The LGBT community would be angry instead of the Mexican and Muslim communities.

The LGBT community is angry with this administration too. It just hasn't been focused on because of the bigger dumpster fires with other communities/issues.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2017, 07:04:09 PM »
Quote from: daveosupremo on October 11, 2017, 05:34:02 PM
Embassy in Jerusalem
Iran deal gone
Out of Paris agreement
Mike Lee instead of Gorsuch
Kennedy retired, Gorsuch nominated
Better relationship with congress, no Russia distractions, etc gives more chance for success of aca repeal/ tax reform


Considering how 90% of republicans in the Senate hate him, relations with Congress would probably not be any better
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2017, 07:32:55 PM »
I think he would have been weaker than Trump. He would have had trouble in the Rust Belt. He might of done much better in Texas and Utah... maybe Florida.  I could see him getting a PV like Trump did and lose.
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2017, 07:36:26 PM »
Appointees and cabinet secretaries would not be based on if you were a multi millionaire or a billionaire.
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2017, 07:53:02 PM »
Nothing would have gotten done in terms of the legislative agenda. As much as R's don't want to admit it, the party is fractured and that is a problem that goes beyond Trump.

But US would still have credibility when it comes to foreign policy. That is the area where Trump has really hurt the country.
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2017, 07:55:34 PM »
Obamacare repeal would have been an identical fiasco.
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2017, 08:16:10 PM »
« Edited: October 11, 2017, 08:38:58 PM by AtorBoltox »
Quote from: Lincoln Republican on October 11, 2017, 07:36:26 PM
Appointees and cabinet secretaries would not be based on if you were a multi millionaire or a billionaire.
Yes it would. That’s what republicans do, not just Trump
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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2017, 08:26:24 PM »
Nothing really, except "The Resistance" wouldn't be so instant and it would be based on actual policy failures.

Foreign Policy would be just as much of a joke, possibly even worse since there'd be Russia antagonism again. At least Trump's keeping that element at bay, even if clearly from a pawn stance.
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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2017, 09:05:52 PM »
- Wouldn't withdraw funding from SNC/Rojava
- Wouldn't cut NASA spending
- Would pass 24 week abortion ban(Murkowski, Collins against; Heitkamp, Manchin, Donnelly, Casey, Tester, McCaskill for)
- Federal sales tax or VAT

I could maybe see a "skinny repeal" mainly focused on the mandates.
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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2017, 09:30:14 PM »
Who would Cruz's Attorney General be?
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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2017, 09:30:31 PM »
Give me Trump over Trashy Ted any day.
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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2017, 09:50:29 PM »

Ken Cuccinelli most likely, but Sessions would have been a contender.
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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2017, 09:55:47 PM »
It would be a disaster, but he'd at least have the basic fitness to serve and be vaguely competent. Trump's policies and legislative failures but without his personal failures.
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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2017, 10:08:27 PM »
Quote from: Pericles on October 11, 2017, 09:55:47 PM
It would be a disaster, but he'd at least have the basic fitness to serve and be vaguely competent. Trump's policies and legislative failures but without his personal failures.

This. Although Cruz, IMHO, isn't any more likeable on a personal level than Trump.
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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2017, 10:33:30 PM »
We'd probably have John Bolton as Secretary of State and Tom Cotton as Secretary of Defense.

So......not much better IMO.

Cruz is more competent, but his lack of pragmatism and his utter zealotry scares me even more than Trump could.
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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2017, 09:08:43 AM »
Donald Trump would still claim that the GOP primary was rigged.
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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2017, 09:12:45 AM »
Puerto Ricans wouldn't be under threat of being abandoned in their time of need, or so I would hope.
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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2017, 09:13:55 AM »
Homosexuality would be outlawed.
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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2017, 09:16:18 AM »

Good luck with that constitutional amendment
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