Grade the Trump Presidency (October 2017)

[JA]

It's all about politics, guys. That's all.

If you're a conservative, you love his executive orders, you love his court appointments, you love how he's taking many Obama regulations and rightfully ripping them apart, you love how he says what everyone else thinks but that you're not "supposed" to say. The lack of political correctness is amazingly refreshing after eight years of a guy who wouldn't flat out say he loved America without adding a "but". His cry against globalism and doing all he can to tear up any globalist agenda is also fantastic.

But if you're a liberal living in Manhattan with a gay husband who believes that recycling will save a polar bear and that we should all take sabbaticals to Tibet, yeah, you're probably pissed.

Your standards are laughably low. Obama was a much more collected individual and appointed some liberal judges appointments etc that I liked and I didn't treat him nearly as well as you are treating an unstable president that can't actually get legislative sh**t done.

I almost feel bad criticizing Obama as much as I did from 2008-2015 seeing how these Trump supporters blindly support Trump. Every flaw that Obama had, Trump has it worse and 10x more problems.

By the way I live in rural Georgia and used to be an independent (but still dem leaning) -- Trump, Cruz, and the tea baggers show that the GOP is pretty worthless right now.

That's fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. I think the biggest problem with the Democratic Party right now is their vault to the left. To many, including me, it makes Trump's tweets look mature compared to liberal's obsession with small and inconsequential groups.

The SJW left may be annoying, but that's mostly relegated to tumblr/twitter, and not in the actual politicians. Do you really think they are nearly as big of a concern to the world than Trump's instability and impulsive behavior? Do you really think they are as big of a concern as the GOP trying to push a garbage health care and tax cut bill that are unpopular? Like how do you even make a tax cut bill that is unpopular -- everyone loves tax cuts lol. Are you really fine with some of Trump's open appeals to racism? Are you fine with Trump saying stupid garbage on the daily?

I'm just really disappointed in where the GOP is headed. I used to think the dem party was the "virtue signaling, utopian party" and that the gop party tended to be more reasonable. But the last few years have shown that the dem party is somehow more reasonable than the gop lol.

See this is where I will politely disagree with you.

Think about 2012. Obama wins the election. As a Republican, it sucked. It sucked for Republicans in Congress, too. But then Trump wins and you have this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlMWgQU3HME

How can I ever, EVER, vote for Democrats after that? When they break windows in D.C. during the inauguration. Republicans don't do that crap. They go to Waffle House and sip coffee whining about Obama but they aren't going to "head for the streets".

The immaturity of the left is so beyond the immaturity of the right. Trump looks like a grown up, these people look nuts.

California wants to make it against the law to refer to a man as a man. When you are dealing with people like that, who just 20 or 30 years ago would have been institutionalized and are now trying to say their view is correct, that borders on dangerous. Thus, Trump appears normal.

You think Republicans would have been better behaved if Hillary won?

Compared to the left? Absolutely, unequivocally. White Americans don't riot in public. We riot in the voting booth.

If only those darn colored folk would sit down and behave!

[JA]

It's all about politics, guys. That's all.

If you're a conservative, you love his executive orders, you love his court appointments, you love how he's taking many Obama regulations and rightfully ripping them apart, you love how he says what everyone else thinks but that you're not "supposed" to say. The lack of political correctness is amazingly refreshing after eight years of a guy who wouldn't flat out say he loved America without adding a "but". His cry against globalism and doing all he can to tear up any globalist agenda is also fantastic.

But if you're a liberal living in Manhattan with a gay husband who believes that recycling will save a polar bear and that we should all take sabbaticals to Tibet, yeah, you're probably pissed.

Your standards are laughably low. Obama was a much more collected individual and appointed some liberal judges appointments etc that I liked and I didn't treat him nearly as well as you are treating an unstable president that can't actually get legislative sh**t done.

I almost feel bad criticizing Obama as much as I did from 2008-2015 seeing how these Trump supporters blindly support Trump. Every flaw that Obama had, Trump has it worse and 10x more problems.

By the way I live in rural Georgia and used to be an independent (but still dem leaning) -- Trump, Cruz, and the tea baggers show that the GOP is pretty worthless right now.

That's fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. I think the biggest problem with the Democratic Party right now is their vault to the left. To many, including me, it makes Trump's tweets look mature compared to liberal's obsession with small and inconsequential groups.

The SJW left may be annoying, but that's mostly relegated to tumblr/twitter, and not in the actual politicians. Do you really think they are nearly as big of a concern to the world than Trump's instability and impulsive behavior? Do you really think they are as big of a concern as the GOP trying to push a garbage health care and tax cut bill that are unpopular? Like how do you even make a tax cut bill that is unpopular -- everyone loves tax cuts lol. Are you really fine with some of Trump's open appeals to racism? Are you fine with Trump saying stupid garbage on the daily?

I'm just really disappointed in where the GOP is headed. I used to think the dem party was the "virtue signaling, utopian party" and that the gop party tended to be more reasonable. But the last few years have shown that the dem party is somehow more reasonable than the gop lol.

See this is where I will politely disagree with you.

Think about 2012. Obama wins the election. As a Republican, it sucked. It sucked for Republicans in Congress, too. But then Trump wins and you have this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlMWgQU3HME

How can I ever, EVER, vote for Democrats after that? When they break windows in D.C. during the inauguration. Republicans don't do that crap. They go to Waffle House and sip coffee whining about Obama but they aren't going to "head for the streets".

The immaturity of the left is so beyond the immaturity of the right. Trump looks like a grown up, these people look nuts.

California wants to make it against the law to refer to a man as a man. When you are dealing with people like that, who just 20 or 30 years ago would have been institutionalized and are now trying to say their view is correct, that borders on dangerous. Thus, Trump appears normal.

You think Republicans would have been better behaved if Hillary won?

Compared to the left? Absolutely, unequivocally. White Americans don't riot in public. We riot in the voting booth.

If only those darn colored folk would sit down and behave!

Who said it had anything to do with African Americans? I said white people riot in the voting booth. Doesn't have to be about racial issues.

Reaganfan: *makes it racial*
Reaganfan: it doesn’t have to be about racial issues

If White people don’t riot in public, but only in the voting booth, yet your problem with Democrats is in part that they rioted in reaction to Trump’s election, then obviously you’re saying it wasn’t White people rioting, it was those damn colored folks. Yknow, the ones who just can’t seem to learn their place.

[JA]

It's all about politics, guys. That's all.

If you're a conservative, you love his executive orders, you love his court appointments, you love how he's taking many Obama regulations and rightfully ripping them apart, you love how he says what everyone else thinks but that you're not "supposed" to say. The lack of political correctness is amazingly refreshing after eight years of a guy who wouldn't flat out say he loved America without adding a "but". His cry against globalism and doing all he can to tear up any globalist agenda is also fantastic.

But if you're a liberal living in Manhattan with a gay husband who believes that recycling will save a polar bear and that we should all take sabbaticals to Tibet, yeah, you're probably pissed.

Your standards are laughably low. Obama was a much more collected individual and appointed some liberal judges appointments etc that I liked and I didn't treat him nearly as well as you are treating an unstable president that can't actually get legislative sh**t done.

I almost feel bad criticizing Obama as much as I did from 2008-2015 seeing how these Trump supporters blindly support Trump. Every flaw that Obama had, Trump has it worse and 10x more problems.

By the way I live in rural Georgia and used to be an independent (but still dem leaning) -- Trump, Cruz, and the tea baggers show that the GOP is pretty worthless right now.

That's fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. I think the biggest problem with the Democratic Party right now is their vault to the left. To many, including me, it makes Trump's tweets look mature compared to liberal's obsession with small and inconsequential groups.

The SJW left may be annoying, but that's mostly relegated to tumblr/twitter, and not in the actual politicians. Do you really think they are nearly as big of a concern to the world than Trump's instability and impulsive behavior? Do you really think they are as big of a concern as the GOP trying to push a garbage health care and tax cut bill that are unpopular? Like how do you even make a tax cut bill that is unpopular -- everyone loves tax cuts lol. Are you really fine with some of Trump's open appeals to racism? Are you fine with Trump saying stupid garbage on the daily?

I'm just really disappointed in where the GOP is headed. I used to think the dem party was the "virtue signaling, utopian party" and that the gop party tended to be more reasonable. But the last few years have shown that the dem party is somehow more reasonable than the gop lol.

See this is where I will politely disagree with you.

Think about 2012. Obama wins the election. As a Republican, it sucked. It sucked for Republicans in Congress, too. But then Trump wins and you have this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlMWgQU3HME

How can I ever, EVER, vote for Democrats after that? When they break windows in D.C. during the inauguration. Republicans don't do that crap. They go to Waffle House and sip coffee whining about Obama but they aren't going to "head for the streets".

The immaturity of the left is so beyond the immaturity of the right. Trump looks like a grown up, these people look nuts.

California wants to make it against the law to refer to a man as a man. When you are dealing with people like that, who just 20 or 30 years ago would have been institutionalized and are now trying to say their view is correct, that borders on dangerous. Thus, Trump appears normal.

You think Republicans would have been better behaved if Hillary won?

Compared to the left? Absolutely, unequivocally. White Americans don't riot in public. We riot in the voting booth.

If only those darn colored folk would sit down and behave!

Who said it had anything to do with African Americans? I said white people riot in the voting booth. Doesn't have to be about racial issues.

Reaganfan: *makes it racial*
Reaganfan: it doesn’t have to be about racial issues

If White people don’t riot in public, but only in the voting booth, yet your problem with Democrats is in part that they rooted in reaction to Trump’s election, then obviously you’re saying it wasn’t White people rioting, it was those damn colored folks. Yknow, the ones who just can’t seem to learn their place.

I posted a video of white protesters! Grumps posted a picture of old white lady protesters!

You see, this is what you liberals do. You immediately realize you've lost the argument, so you go back to the race card.

But even that doesn't seem to be working anymore.

If you posted a video of white protesters, then why did you say “White Americans don’t riot in public. We riot in the voting booth”? That only leaves a few options available:

(a) those people weren’t white who protested, yet you assert they are, so it’s not that.
(b) you were incorrect or lied when you stated, “White Americans don’t riot in public. We riot in the voting booth.” But you’re a man of intelligence and integrity, you could never lie or be incorrect. So, it can’t be that either.
(c) you falsely conflate White with Republican when it suits your interests.

Considering that I know I didn’t lose anything and you’re the person who brought up the issue of race, it has to be obvious, even to you, that you’re completely full of it right now.

Also, please don’t call me a liberal. I’m a Socialist, not a liberal. Get it right!