Do you agree that "conservatism is the new counterculture?"

[Dr. MB]

Paul Joseph Watson made this claim. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avb8cwOgVQ8

I make the argument that it always has been a counterculture in some way, since it's pushing back against the leftward turn of the mainstream (literally counter-culture).

[Don Vito Corleone]

A movement which controls the House, Senate, and Presidency is not a counterculture.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

How does the phrase go? "The eternal rebel in the conservative," or something like that? In a society ruled by movement, the square man will always be slightly off.

[RINO Tom]

A movement which controls the House, Senate, and Presidency is not a counterculture.

[HillGoose]

nah, I'm a neocon (can't speak for alt-right though) and I'm very establishment in pretty much every way.

[Lechasseur]

Yes

[The Govanah Jake]

A movement which controls the House, Senate, and Presidency is not a counterculture.

This. I believe a counter culture is a culture that goes against the current one. And in politics the current dominant culture right now is controlled by the Republican Party who control all three branches of government whose main governing policy is some form of conservatism. Being said so, conservatism cant be the current counter culture in politics being they are already the current dominant one. Though if your talking about social progress made by the country on social issues and the conservative backlash against that then you could argue then they are the counter culture because they don't support the dominant culture of supporting said social issues.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

What's conservatism and what's culture?

[Cactus Jack]

As a general rule, the very point of counterculture is to fight against fascism and moral guardianship. So, in other words, a resounding no.

[bagelman]

It is on university campuses, but in real world not really.

[darklordoftech]

If being pro-tobacco and pro-student-gun-rights is conservative, the answer is yes.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

As a general rule, the very point of counterculture is to fight against fascism and moral guardianship. So, in other words, a resounding no.

By definition, counter-cultures function to oppose or try to supplant the current ideological framework; a Puritan could be counter-cultural in many parts of the world regardless of whether there is "fascism" or not.

[Lechasseur]

As a general rule, the very point of counterculture is to fight against fascism and moral guardianship. So, in other words, a resounding no.

By definition, counter-cultures function to oppose or try to supplant the current ideological framework; a Puritan could be counter-cultural in many parts of the world regardless of whether there is "fascism" or not.

This

[TDAS04]

Absolutely not.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

no, not even on college campuses. part of being a "counterculture" is that you have to be cool, and most college republicans are massive dorks

In a world marked by extremist individualism and saturated by hipsters, the only true rebellion is complete conformity.

[vanguard96]

no, not even on college campuses. part of being a "counterculture" is that you have to be cool, and most college republicans are massive dorks

In a world marked by extremist individualism and saturated by hipsters, the only true rebellion is complete conformity.

And you are the ultimate conformist, then?

[Lechasseur]

no, not even on college campuses. part of being a "counterculture" is that you have to be cool, and most college republicans are massive dorks

In a world marked by extremist individualism and saturated by hipsters, the only true rebellion is complete conformity.

This

[Person Man]

Isn't that called "Straight Edge"

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

no, not even on college campuses. part of being a "counterculture" is that you have to be cool, and most college republicans are massive dorks

^^^^
The "conservative counter culture" has a name. It's called the libertarian movement, and only the weirdos fit the bill.

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

No.

However, I would note that I've noticed a disturbing trend of young white teens thinking that fascism/Nazism/the "Alt-right"  are all cool and edgy though.

[Small L]

Assuming that conservatism is the desire to more or less maintain the status quo, then if conservatism becomes counter-cultural it means it's lost that battle, in which case the same positions might be better styled reactionary rather than conservative.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

no, not even on college campuses. part of being a "counterculture" is that you have to be cool, and most college republicans are massive dorks

In a world marked by extremist individualism and saturated by hipsters, the only true rebellion is complete conformity.

And you are the ultimate conformist, then?

I try. Moreso, I am the natural conclusion of post-modernism.

[MarkD]

no, not even on college campuses. part of being a "counterculture" is that you have to be cool, and most college republicans are massive dorks

In a world marked by extremist individualism and saturated by hipsters, the only true rebellion is complete conformity.

And you are the ultimate conformist, then?

I try. Moreso, I am the natural conclusion of post-modernism.

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That was from "The Federal Courts, Politics, and the Rule of Law," by John C. Hughes, published in 1995.
I know I'm a conformist, and that I'm right-of-center. I don't see anything "counter-culture" about conservatism.

[Deblano]

Blech.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

As a general rule, the very point of counterculture is to fight against fascism and moral guardianship. So, in other words, a resounding no.

By definition, counter-cultures function to oppose or try to supplant the current ideological framework; a Puritan could be counter-cultural in many parts of the world regardless of whether there is "fascism" or not.

This is the correct take.  There is no one "counterculture."