Does WFP run a gubernatorial candidate in New York next year?
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« on: October 15, 2017, 02:00:39 PM »

I say yes.
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2017, 02:02:42 PM »

Does anyone know if the WFP is mad at Cuomo? I don't think his policies are out of line with theirs, although they probably don't agree with his means of getting these policies passed into law.
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2017, 03:30:04 PM »

Nah, they're cowards and the unions would abandon them if they tried.
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2017, 04:27:28 PM »

Yes, though who is an open question.
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2017, 05:05:41 PM »

I wonder who they run. They are a joke of a party who rarely runs their own candidates and just endorses Democrats.
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2017, 05:12:41 PM »

No, they will just endorse the democratic nominee as always, whether that's Cuomo or someone else. While they make the appearance of being a political party, at the end of the day they are nothing more than an "issue" line for the democratic party that rose out of the state's electoral fusion system. If they go away from being that by nominating their own candidate to run against the democratic nominee, they will lose all of their "support" almost instantly.
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2017, 05:59:37 PM »

I wonder who they run. They are a joke of a party who rarely runs their own candidates and just endorses Democrats.

 Zephyr Teachout? Melissa Mark-Viverto? Kate Browning? (If she isn't elected to Congress)
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2017, 06:00:35 PM »

It will not happen.

If Cuomo is strong, and they do it anyway, there will be such an effort to ensure that the WFP doesn't get 50,000 votes for its Gubenatorial candidate, at which time, the party would lose its permanent spot on the ballot.

If Cuomo is weak, I guarantee that the candidates for Gov. and Lt. Gov. will be offered cross-endorsed Judicial nominations, which will allow them to run Cuomo in the end anyway.

It won't happen.  
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2017, 06:01:49 PM »

"Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."

So, no.
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2017, 06:42:36 PM »

They'd have to be bold or courageous to do that, so no, probably not. They don't really have a history of challenging powerful Democrats.
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2017, 06:48:00 PM »

They'd have to be bold or courageous to do that, so no, probably not. They don't really have a history of challenging powerful Democrats.

Have they seriously challenged ANY democrat in recent cycles?
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2017, 11:35:06 PM »

They'd have to be bold or courageous to do that, so no, probably not. They don't really have a history of challenging powerful Democrats.

Have they seriously challenged ANY democrat in recent cycles?

There's probably other posters that know more about them than me. Maybe tweed on AAD, but nothing comes to mind really. I think they have some clout in NYC politics and the state legislature and occasionally some mayoral race or something, but it's usually more like they back candidates in the Democratic primary - not actually challenge Democrats or Republicans in the general election. IMO, the WFP and other fusion parties are basically just big interest groups with the added bonus of maybe being able to attract voters with their ballot access and registered party members. I'm pretty skeptical that most of those party members are actually that loyal when push comes to shove though.
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2017, 06:54:25 AM »

I f***ing hope so.
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2017, 03:34:18 PM »

Of course not. WFP is a pressure group solely. Their relationship with the Democrats is very different from, e.g., the Conservative Party's relationship with the Republicans. The WFP don't *ever* run separate candidates from the Democrats. In extremis, they might not endorse Cuomo (as happened in the mayoral race in 2005, e.g.), but they certainly won't run against him.
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2017, 03:35:00 PM »

They'd have to be bold or courageous to do that, so no, probably not. They don't really have a history of challenging powerful Democrats.

Have they seriously challenged ANY democrat in recent cycles?

They won a special election in CT this year for a state legislature seat. It was in Hartford so it was just the WFP candidate vs a democrat.
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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2017, 03:35:56 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2017, 03:40:04 PM by Tintrlvr »

They'd have to be bold or courageous to do that, so no, probably not. They don't really have a history of challenging powerful Democrats.

Have they seriously challenged ANY democrat in recent cycles?

I believe the Working Families Party of New York has never run a candidate opposed to the official Democratic Party candidate in any race. Period. The only question is who they support in Democratic primaries and whether they endorse in the general election at all. (They have declined to endorse select Democrats in the past.)

They'd have to be bold or courageous to do that, so no, probably not. They don't really have a history of challenging powerful Democrats.

Have they seriously challenged ANY democrat in recent cycles?

They won a special election in CT this year for a state legislature seat. It was in Hartford so it was just the WFP candidate vs a democrat.

The relationship in other states is different. Has no real bearing on New York.
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2017, 08:11:28 PM »

They'd have to be bold or courageous to do that, so no, probably not. They don't really have a history of challenging powerful Democrats.

Have they seriously challenged ANY democrat in recent cycles?

I believe the Working Families Party of New York has never run a candidate opposed to the official Democratic Party candidate in any race. Period. The only question is who they support in Democratic primaries and whether they endorse in the general election at all. (They have declined to endorse select Democrats in the past.)

They'd have to be bold or courageous to do that, so no, probably not. They don't really have a history of challenging powerful Democrats.

Have they seriously challenged ANY democrat in recent cycles?

They won a special election in CT this year for a state legislature seat. It was in Hartford so it was just the WFP candidate vs a democrat.

The relationship in other states is different. Has no real bearing on New York.

That's completely false, WFP often backs the candidate not backed by the County Democratic committee.

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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2017, 02:49:25 AM »

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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2017, 03:00:05 AM »

A 3rd party can't win against an incumbent in New York State.

Please ignore this page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_New_York,_1970
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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2017, 03:08:54 AM »

Plus, it's the NYGOP. They're gonna nominate Wendy Long and get 30% of the vote again even if the WFP break from Cuomo.
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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2017, 12:44:27 PM »

They'd have to be bold or courageous to do that, so no, probably not. They don't really have a history of challenging powerful Democrats.

Have they seriously challenged ANY democrat in recent cycles?
Yuh-Line Niou, a special election candidate last year for AD-65. Lost, ran as a Dem in regular elex, won.
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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2017, 01:30:59 PM »

They'd have to be bold or courageous to do that, so no, probably not. They don't really have a history of challenging powerful Democrats.

Have they seriously challenged ANY democrat in recent cycles?
Yuh-Line Niou, a special election candidate last year for AD-65. Lost, ran as a Dem in regular elex, won.

Cancel wasn't an incumbent.
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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2017, 08:50:19 AM »

They'd have to be bold or courageous to do that, so no, probably not. They don't really have a history of challenging powerful Democrats.

Have they seriously challenged ANY democrat in recent cycles?
Yuh-Line Niou, a special election candidate last year for AD-65. Lost, ran as a Dem in regular elex, won.

Cancel wasn't an incumbent.

Yes she was; she was elected in the special election defeating Niou and served out as an Assembly Member running for a full term
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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2017, 08:52:35 AM »

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