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« on: October 16, 2017, 03:05:58 PM »

If Neocons dislike her then it means she's doing it right.

One of the reasons I liked Trump so much was because neocons hate dhim.
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2017, 03:10:17 PM »

the more I read about Tulsi, the more I like her.

How can anyone Democrat get mad at Bush over Iraq then be against Assad?
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2017, 03:22:45 PM »

the more I read about Tulsi, the more I like her.

How can anyone Democrat get mad at Bush over Iraq then be against Assad?

The fact that people like you like Tulsi should be telling for Democrats.

She's the Alt-Rights favorite Democrat.

I don't want to hear another Democrat complain about neocons/Bush/Iraq war ever again then if they're going to support being against Assad. "Assad uses chemical weapons" just lmao. If anyone actually believes that then there is some yellow cake I'd like to sell you from Iraq.
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2017, 03:39:35 PM »

the more I read about Tulsi, the more I like her.

How can anyone Democrat get mad at Bush over Iraq then be against Assad?

The fact that people like you like Tulsi should be telling for Democrats.

She's the Alt-Rights favorite Democrat.

I don't want to hear another Democrat complain about neocons/Bush/Iraq war ever again then if they're going to support being against Assad. "Assad uses chemical weapons" just lmao. If anyone actually believes that then there is some yellow cake I'd like to sell you from Iraq.

Your God-Emperor believes that Assad used chemical weapons, so clearly he's an idiot by your standards.

Why do you think I want to get rid of all the neocons like Kushner out?

Kerry and Clinton believed Saddam had WMDs too. The only difference is that we are consistent - I want to back Assad and never thought we should have invaded Iraq. I don't change my beliefs to fit whatever my masters tell me to.

It's incredible how fast people's "beliefs" change when it suits them. In 2012, Russia was our BFF and Mitt Romney belonged in the 1980s due to his statements. Now Russia is such a threat they weaponized Pokemon Go against us lmao.

All I am saying is BE consistent. Don't say "Bush lied; people died" then go on to support taking out Assad.
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2017, 03:44:23 PM »

And about gay marriage, she'll be fine.

Sanders got people to believe he's always been pro-gay marriage although he didn't explicitly support it til 2009.
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2017, 03:56:17 PM »


Firstly, I've always believed that Russia has posed a threat to the US, and I'm neither a Democrat nor a neoconservative.
Secondly, I think the evidence is clear that Assad has used  chemical weapons against his own people. this does not mean that I believe we should start another adventure in the Middle East, but if something is not done about this by the international community and especially the US, he will continue to slaughter his own people unchecked and that is unacceptable.

"I am not a neoconservative"

Immediately spouts neocon propaganda.

u wot m8?
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2017, 04:43:57 PM »

the more I read about Tulsi, the more I like her.

How can anyone Democrat get mad at Bush over Iraq then be against Assad?

Gabbard isn't pro Assad, just like people against the Iraq war weren't pro Saddam. There are plenty of sh**tty leaders, some of whom are our "allies" like the House of Saud.

And about gay marriage, she'll be fine.

Sanders got people to believe he's always been pro-gay marriage although he didn't explicitly support it til 2009.

He had never opposed it. In the 1970s, he called for abolishing on laws dealing homosexuality, which could be implied as supporting SSM, but SSM wasn't really an issue talked about much until this century.

Sanders signed a resolution in the early 80s declaring marriage between a woman and man and as recently as 2006 said it should be left up to the states.

Yet he got everyone to think he's been at the forefront of gay rights lol.

Hell, Obama and Clinton got people to believe they're gay right innovators (even though Clinton is STILL personally against gay marriage).

And Assad is crappy but far better than letting Neocons take control. One of the best thing Trump did was stop the selling of weapons to the Al-Qaeda/ISIS I meant "rebels" my bad.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2017, 05:39:42 PM »
« Edited: October 19, 2017, 05:41:52 PM by 60+ GOP Seats After 2018 GUARANTEED »

That 1980s letter he signed just mentioned husband and wife at a time when gay marriage wasn't an issue, so I don't think it really can be taken as opposition to gay marriage. And in 2006, leaving it to the states was the view of most who supported SSM since Congress was still trying to pass a constitutional amendment to ban it.

As I said, he was never explicitly for gay marriage until 2009, yet people act as if he was a hero about this.

If he was then in the 1980s he would have put it at the forefront. Sanders got people to believe a lot about him that simply isn't true.

If he can do it Tulsi can. The only difference is Tulsi is actually anti-establishment unlike Sanders. Sanders was treated with kid's gloves in 2016. Tulsi will not be.

I pray if she does run she beats the media.
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2017, 06:19:42 PM »

You're pro-Assad yet want to go "all out" in a war against a nuclear power, which would kill millions, and wish we had done that "in Vietnam." You have no right to accuse others of being "neocons."

1. I am saying IF we go to war with North Korea, we can't half ass it. If we are going to go war we cannot go easy. Vietnam was a slaughterhouse for American troops. I'd prefer to NOT to have went to Vietnam but since we did we shouldn't have been so soft.

2. North Korea actually hates us. Assad or Saddam barely care(d) about us.

Neocons = / = North Korea anyway.
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2017, 06:27:21 PM »

The neocons originally wanted war in Asia in the 1990s. They only switched to the Middle East after 9/11.

What do you mean?
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2017, 06:36:49 PM »

Now Clinton is speaking against Trump's North Korean policy. The fact one of the biggest neocons ever is doing that leads me to believe that Trump's actions are NOT  neocon policy.
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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2017, 06:41:32 PM »

In the 1990s PNAC, Wolfowitz, and Rumsfeld were part of the "Blue Team" advocating a hawkish stance towards China.

She's not saying there is no military solution. Steve Bannon, rightly, said that. Even Trump's initial instinct was to talk with the North Koreans, until the military-industrial complex convinced him otherwise.

So my question is that you know why we invaded Iraq and are against Assad, why do you say Trump is a neocon?

"A Clean Break" doesn't mention North Korea or China once.
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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2017, 06:46:50 PM »

In the 1990s PNAC, Wolfowitz, and Rumsfeld were part of the "Blue Team" advocating a hawkish stance towards China.

She's not saying there is no military solution. Steve Bannon, rightly, said that. Even Trump's initial instinct was to talk with the North Koreans, until the military-industrial complex convinced him otherwise.

So my question is that you know why we invaded Iraq and are against Assad, why do you say Trump is a neocon?

"A Clean Break" doesn't mention North Korea or China once.

I never said Trump was a neocon. But the neocons still have influence in the military-industrial complex and therefore in his advice and decision making.

They want Syria, not North Korea.

The fact neocons are so against Trump shows me they don't have as much influence as one would think.

It doesn't make sense to say the reason we didn't go full out with Vietnam was because of China, but now the same people who made those decisions all of a sudden want to go to war with North Korea despite it most likely leading to a full war with China.

In fact, the reason the USA is now against Putin so much is BECAUSE of Putin's backing of Assad. That's why the USA Government became so anti-Putin.

If Putin tomorrow decided to support removing Assad all of a sudden Russia would be our BFFs again.
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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2017, 06:59:36 PM »

The decision-makers were more cautious in the 60s since they were people who had actually seen major war upfront and knew the costs personally. The worst war most people have experienced in the present generation is Iraq, which a nuclear war would not even be in the same league. If you look at the age breakdown in polls, those age 65+ are the most dovish on North Korea, there's a very good reason for that.

Now the military industrial complex is really just a dove in disguise? Also doesn't gel with the fact you said in the 90s (when the Vietnam war was way more relevant) were "warhawkish" with North Korea.

See why I am skeptical of your explanations?

Now we got George W. Bush speaking out against Trump - once again, the neocons are scared.

What they want now is war with Russia, because Putin backs Assad.
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2017, 12:00:46 PM »
« Edited: October 20, 2017, 12:02:39 PM by 60+ GOP Seats After 2018 GUARANTEED »

I know you are a troll. But  - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAFlQ6fU4GM - This is Sanders fighting an attack on gay soldiers by a homphobic Republican Congressman. This is 1995.

Fast Forward to 1996. He was one of the few to vote against DOMA, a homophobic bi-partisan legislation supported by Democrats & Republicans & the Clintons.

And he has taken part in gay parades since the 80s. It is true that there is nothing to say that he supported SSM in the 90s or early 2000s but his record is fairly stellar. He came out for SSM earlier than most, including Clinton (who was the one of the last), voted the right way for Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Sanders  has generally been an ally for the gay community, atleast since the 90s even if he hasn't endorsed SSM back then.

He voted against the DOMA in 1996, but his wife stated We’re not legislating values. We have to follow the Constitution,” Jane Sanders said. “And anything that weakens the Constitution should be (addressed) by a constitutional amendment, not by a law passed by Congress.”

And in 2006, he straight up said gay marriage should be up to the states: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4550754/sanders-opposed-federal-marriage-equality-2006

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As I said, if Bernie can hide his past, so can Tulsi.

Hell I have had Berniebros threaten violence against me for revealing the truth about his past. So he not only got people to buy into his lies, but they're  devoted followers.
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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2017, 11:56:47 AM »

Her one big mistake was meeting up with Assad it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, she can spin it off as her trying to be diplomatic. Otherwise she has been doing a decent job of trying to get Bernie's base behind her ahead of 2020. I think she will be a monster at small donor fundraising and surprise a lot of people.

The question is how much power does Clinton still have?

If Clinton still has some power Tulsi may be doomed due to superdelegates.
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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2017, 12:05:01 PM »


I mean Syria and Libya were Obama's Iraq and we didnt see them get mad over that.


No this is not right you seriously believe this . We were in iraq for 8 years and only in libya for 7 months . far less casualties too so it isnt comparable

If Bush went to Libya for 7 months it'd be comparable.
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