Which is the more socially progressive wing?

[James Monroe]

A lot of people may not like the answer, but there one wing of the Democratic Party that has stood up for equality for many marginalized groups for years.

[PoliticalShelter]

Why are there still Hillary cultists in 2017?

[Kamala]

Doesn't matter since they're both better than the GOP.

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Seeing as both wings came into existence last year, neither of them have defended marginalised people's rights for years.

[IceSpear]

Seeing as both wings came into existence last year

I object to this statement.

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I can safely say the Hillary wing of 2008 was a different beast entirely to the 2016 Hillary wing.

[IceSpear]

I can safely say the Hillary wing of 2008 was a different beast entirely to the 2016 Hillary wing.

Somewhat true, but there was definitely a large contingent that supported her in both years due to thinking she was a battle tested and reliable workhorse that had the best qualifications and experience. Along with thinking she was a better bet to actually get things accomplished (a key argument that stayed the same in both 2008 and 2016.) All that old fashioned stuff nobody cares about anymore. And before someone says it...yeah, also the people that supported her just because she was a woman and/or a Clinton.

[Lechasseur]

Probably the Sanders wing, but not sure

[Lechasseur]

I can safely say the Hillary wing of 2008 was a different beast entirely to the 2016 Hillary wing.

This

[James Monroe]

I can safely say the Hillary wing of 2008 was a different beast entirely to the 2016 Hillary wing.

The Hillary wing of 2016 united the Obama wing to defeat the bros. It's glorious to witness true unity in the party, unlike the Bernie bros that keep reckoning by saying WE are the PROBLEM. The attacks on women and POC from the Chapo-Bernard crowd is shamefully and should be condemned for anyone who cares an inch about social justice.

[bagelman]

I can safely say the Hillary wing of 2008 was a different beast entirely to the 2016 Hillary wing.

The Hillary wing of 2016 united the Obama wing to defeat the bros. It's glorious to witness true unity in the party, unlike the Bernie bros that keep reckoning by saying WE are the PROBLEM. The attacks on women and POC from the Chapo-Bernard crowd is shamefully and should be condemned for anyone who cares an inch about social justice.

The problem is that "social justice" as Clintonites define is:

A. Ideological justification to forgo rural areas and cities not trendy enough for rich boy latte liberals because racial diversity is seen as the only end, not a functional economic system for the 21st century

and therefore

B. Not what the Democratic party nor America needs to be fighting for within her own borders.

[Green Line]

The Bernie Wing is regressive in every aspect.  So where does that leave us??

[Intell]

I can safely say the Hillary wing of 2008 was a different beast entirely to the 2016 Hillary wing.

The Hillary wing of 2016 united the Obama wing to defeat the bros. It's glorious to witness true unity in the party, unlike the Bernie bros that keep reckoning by saying WE are the PROBLEM. The attacks on women and POC from the Chapo-Bernard crowd is shamefully and should be condemned for anyone who cares an inch about social justice.

Oh Yes the wing that supports less for black people right's in regards to police brutality is the solution.

The wing that has supported right-wing economic policy and opposed Sanders plan for healthcare, childcare, a higher minimum wage, this surely helps poor black and hispanic people.

[RINO Tom]

These "wings" largely have the same views and just, naturally, started to hate the only other cult in the party.

[Phony Moderate]

Outside of the internet, the "Bernie wing" is to a large extent the insurgent wing that has long existed and has always been out to stop the 'inevitable' candidate from winning the nomination. In 2008 it was the Obama wing, in 2000 the Bradley wing, in 1992 the Moonbeam wing, in 1980 the Teddy wing, in 1968 it was split between McCarthy and RFK. It isn't even always to the left of the other wing - see 1984 for example.

[darklordoftech]

The wing that doesn't say, "Black people don't want to go to college".

[OneJ]

Most likely the Clinton wing is the wing that is more likely to emphasize7 social issues while the Sanders wing is more likely to emphasize economic issues.

However, like RINO Tom said, both major wings of the Democratic Party aren't very different ideologically. The main differences have to deal with the "style" and on the subject of whether or not the "system is rigged."

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a lot of people in this thread are far too invested in political Twitter

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

A lot of people may not like the answer, but there one wing of the Democratic Party that has stood up for equality for many marginalized groups for years.

"Many years"? These "wings" formed two years ago or less.

[pikachu]

This is probably just because of my race, age, and location, but a large amount of Sanders supporters I knew were urbanite minority women who were as invested in the culture war stuff as they were in economic justice. These things aren't as clearly delineated as they might seem. Also, yeah, idk if the divisions between the two 'wings' is as large in real life as it is on Twitter.

[Beet]

Democrats really need to stop relitigating the primary. I'm on the Hillary side of things, but I've got nothing against Bernie or his movement. There are far bigger things to worry about-- like war. The NFL controversy is overblown, too.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

This is probably just because of my race, age, and location, but a large amount of Sanders supporters I knew were urbanite minority women who were as invested in the culture war stuff as they were in economic justice. These things aren't as clearly delineated as they might seem. Also, yeah, idk if the divisions between the two 'wings' is as large in real life as it is on Twitter.

Apparently, they may actually be the opposite; according to a study posted somewhere in US General Discussion, Sanders' supporters were economically to the right of Hillary's and vice versa on social issues. I suspect this is owing to racial breakdown, and that things would look more "correct" (i.e. "SJW neoliberals" v. "populists") among a sample of only white voters.

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It's clearly the Bernie wing, although not by the overwhelming margin that they're more economically progressive.

[James Monroe]

Most likely the Clinton wing is the wing that is more likely to emphasize social issues while the Sanders wing is more likely to emphasize economic issues.

Separating "social issues" from "economic issues" is a fool's errand, but yes, the Clintons of the Democratic Party do tend to ramp up the cultural warfare in their rhetoric in comparison to the party's populists. Of course, once the former actually get into office, they end up doing zilch to end mass deportations or police brutality, and, needless to say, put no effort into passing social democratic policies that improve the material conditions of the working class. (in particular it's non-white, non-male segments)

In order to separate social concerns from economic anxiety, one needs to see the treatment of rich black people such as Lebron James are treated by white society. Lebron house was grafted by racial slurs and he's the richest player in the NBA, don't see how having tons of cash will erased racism. The economic populism doesn't take into consideration that much of the country is deeply ingrained in racism. If a single payer health care system is established it wouldn't be easy to see how the Deep South would forbid immigrants from having health care, or blacks even. Blacks or other minorities, not matter the class, will face the same struggles in their daily lives, therefore it's condescending to hear rich white people say social democracy would be better for them when they have the weakest power in Scandinavia nations.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

The center of the Democrats is undeniably more socially progressive than the authoritarian left.