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« on: October 16, 2017, 05:36:09 PM »

Are there any TV series you loved very much when you were a kid, but you now find boring, hate or are even ashamed of?
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2017, 05:55:59 PM »

House of Cards.  Worst. Show. Ever.
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2017, 05:58:32 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2017, 06:26:46 PM »

I liked Family Matters and Full House very much when I was a little kid. Now I just feel Fremdscham when I watch them.
I also used to like The Cosby Show, but nowadays I find it incredibly boring.
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2017, 12:49:39 AM »

Easily Yugi-oh!
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2017, 01:17:59 AM »

The A-Team was awesome when I was 9.  I tried to watch an episode a couple of years ago and it was awful.
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2017, 09:20:09 AM »

I used to watch Big Bang Theory religiously, but I have just stopped. When they announced that they had extended it for another 3 seasons, I just thought, "Really? Haven't we really seen everything we've needed to see?" I will probably pick it up again at some point, but all my enthusiasm for the show has died.

I also grew up loving the Simpsons, and still love the idea of it being on tv, but as everyone knows the quality has dropped off a cliff in the past 15 or so years. I really don't pay attention to any of the new episodes. But the old episodes are still treasures.
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2017, 10:59:06 AM »

I also grew up loving the Simpsons, and still love the idea of it being on tv, but as everyone knows the quality has dropped off a cliff in the past 15 or so years. I really don't pay attention to any of the new episodes. But the old episodes are still treasures.

     I came in to post the Simpsons, and see that you beat me to it. It's actually been about 20 years since it started declining, but it was 15 years ago that the low quality of the new episodes caused me to stop watching the show. I don't know what it is, but it seems like every comedy show that runs long enough devolves into random events plots with lazy jokes, almost as if the writing staff forgot the basics of comedy.

     I still love the early seasons of Simpsons, but the fact that the show has been junk for the majority of its run now makes me embarrassed to admit to liking it. Comedies have a bad habit of greatly outstaying their welcome, which makes it all the more significant that Jerry Seinfeld chose to pull the plug himself when he was offered a tenth season for his show.
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2017, 11:43:51 AM »

I still watch it and hold out for a good season, but Big Brother hasn't been good since like Big Brother 10.
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2017, 02:29:17 PM »

The West Wing
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2017, 04:17:02 PM »
« Edited: October 17, 2017, 04:19:09 PM by Malcolm X »

The West Wing and Law & Order/Law & Order SVU.
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2017, 04:25:46 PM »

The West Wing and Law & Order/Law & Order SVU.
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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2017, 04:58:11 PM »

House of Cards has gotten really stale.
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2017, 05:31:20 PM »

Even though a lot of my favorite artists came from it, but American Idol wasn't actually good television. Add The Voice to that as well.

I don't hate Supernatural, but I'm just kinda sad for it. It should've been cancelled like 4 seasons ago. The newer seasons are stale, and repetitive.

Also, The Walking Dead, first three seasons I loved. The second half of season 4 was when I started to hate. I kept watching because it had a few interesting bits, but overall it got boring, and characters who were annoying kept living.

Although, the upcoming seasons of TWD and Supernatural promise to be pretty good, and give me hope for them. That both shows could end with a handful of actually good seasons.
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2017, 06:07:50 PM »

House of Cards has gotten really stale.

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was definitely at its best when it depicted Frank rising to power. I'd say the best spot to end the show would have been right at the end of the second season, when he finally becomes president. I've watched all the subsequent seasons, but seeing him essentially plateau isn't as interesting as when he was getting there. I have the same attitude to it that I do towards the back half of the second season Twin Peaks, after Laura's killer was revealed—nominally entertaining, but really just a show spinning its wheels.
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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2017, 06:35:49 PM »

Homeland after the halfway-point of Season 2.
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« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2017, 12:26:21 PM »

Doctor Who is getting there thanks to full-on virtue signaling, post-modernist, identity politics replacing drama and good storytelling more often than not. The last two parter was solid if not for that I would say definitely yes about the past two or three seasons. I am not extremely hopeful for the new season and the casting decision itself is not the problem though if the direction of the series is a clue they will mine it in the worst ways possible as a wink to its increasingly left-of-center, teen & adult audience. I think I watch it more as a completist - though from time to time it can surprise. My daughter is interested because of the casting decision though I really hope what they offer is an example of television appropriate for a 11 year old kid and not like spinoffs like Class or Torchwood which lose some of the fun of the original series adventurous nature with the characters relationships and story arcs as an allegory of some larger social issue rather than the plots moving to the fore.

Spinoffs are like this and the Fear the Walking Dead show quickly lost its appeal and I did not even bother with the most recent season.

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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2017, 01:20:19 PM »

Doctor Who is getting there thanks to full-on virtue signaling, post-modernist, identity politics replacing drama and good storytelling more often than not. The last two parter was solid if not for that I would say definitely yes about the past two or three seasons. I am not extremely hopeful for the new season and the casting decision itself is not the problem though if the direction of the series is a clue they will mine it in the worst ways possible as a wink to its increasingly left-of-center, teen & adult audience. I think I watch it more as a completist - though from time to time it can surprise. My daughter is interested because of the casting decision though I really hope what they offer is an example of television appropriate for a 11 year old kid and not like spinoffs like Class or Torchwood which lose some of the fun of the original series adventurous nature with the characters relationships and story arcs as an allegory of some larger social issue rather than the plots moving to the fore.

Spinoffs are like this and the Fear the Walking Dead show quickly lost its appeal and I did not even bother with the most recent season.



Yeah, I am also worried about Doctor Who as well. I will definitely give it a shot, but I am nervous that it will no longer be the same, or will try so hard to prove that a woman doctor is just the same/as good as a male doctor that it comes across poorly. If it works, I will be the first to come here and admit I was wrong. But I really am worried that Doctor Who will not be the same show I have really come to love these past number of years.
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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2017, 02:21:00 PM »
« Edited: October 18, 2017, 02:26:38 PM by IceAgeComing »

Doctor Who has always been a family show; it has always tried to appeal to an incredibly diverse audience and that's been the case since the thing launched in 1963 (indeed to some controversy within the BBC - the department that normally made the childrens programmes saw it as being something that they should have produced and were annoyed when the serials department came up with it: it very quickly changed to be the sort of programme that would appeal to older kids without necessarily turning off older people) - indeed when the new series started when I was 12 it was one of the few TV shows that me, my parents and my older sister would watch together at once for years.  Besides; Doctor Who has always had stories based around wider social issues and societal concerns and they are often amongst the higher regarded stories - The Dalek Invasion of Earth is very much inspired by the Nazi occupation of Europe; The Sun Makers was inspired by the writer and script editor's annoyance with the Inland Revenue plus you have the many stories in the 80s that were partially about frustrations at Thatcherism and the direction that the writers saw the state going - Vengeance on Varos comes to mind since I'm a Colin Baker mark and that's one of the few well written things that he actually ever got until the Radio stuff, but there are loads of the things.

Besides; literally the same things were said when there was talk of making The Master a women and, err, that seems to have worked really quite well?  Certainly; the critical reaction to Michelle Gomez's version of the character was incredibly positive!  Change and evolution is a big theme of the series generally - helped partially by the fact that its a series that is designed in such a way that it could theoretically go on forever since The Doctor is the only fixed character and they can always find ways to make regenerations a thing that can always happen - and I suppose because of that moaning about the series changing or "not being the same" or whatever is a bit silly since, well, the reason the first run lasted as long as it did was because there was continual evolution and the series kept on changing and reinventing itself and as soon as it remained stagnant for too long and viewing figures dropped; the people at the top of the BBC (who always hated the series) used that as an excuse to basically sabotage the series (cancelling it because it was 'too low budget' and 'needed to change', then uncancelling it without letting them change anything at the same time as moving away from 45 minute episodes which worked better for the series; then sticking it up against the most popular ITV show in a battle which it could never win just as they were starting to turn the corner) and then it was cancelled.  That would suggest that the thing changing is incredibly important!
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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2017, 04:44:27 PM »

Doctor Who is getting there thanks to full-on virtue signaling, post-modernist, identity politics replacing drama and good storytelling more often than not. The last two parter was solid if not for that I would say definitely yes about the past two or three seasons. I am not extremely hopeful for the new season and the casting decision itself is not the problem though if the direction of the series is a clue they will mine it in the worst ways possible as a wink to its increasingly left-of-center, teen & adult audience. I think I watch it more as a completist - though from time to time it can surprise. My daughter is interested because of the casting decision though I really hope what they offer is an example of television appropriate for a 11 year old kid and not like spinoffs like Class or Torchwood which lose some of the fun of the original series adventurous nature with the characters relationships and story arcs as an allegory of some larger social issue rather than the plots moving to the fore.

Spinoffs are like this and the Fear the Walking Dead show quickly lost its appeal and I did not even bother with the most recent season.



Yeah, I am also worried about Doctor Who as well. I will definitely give it a shot, but I am nervous that it will no longer be the same, or will try so hard to prove that a woman doctor is just the same/as good as a male doctor that it comes across poorly. If it works, I will be the first to come here and admit I was wrong. But I really am worried that Doctor Who will not be the same show I have really come to love these past number of years.

I am a classic series fan who likes the new series. I like Capaldi in the role of the Doctor and even Bill but did not like the story arc overall of the past two seasons apart from the penultimate setup stories that closed each season. Too much of a cop out and the politics got really heavy and uninteresting for a non-partisan such as myself. I am not a socialist but I really liked the Malcolm Hulke stories Invasion of the Dinosaurs and Ambassadors of Death - sort of anti-military, anti-bureaucracy view coming on strong in both of these stories with sympathetic people swayed by a cause they did not see the full intentions of. It fit very much into the civil libertarian, anti-authoritarian aspect of the show. The Sunmakers is a parody story and the single company world is a caricature from the start and is both a comment on capitalism/corporatism and the state/tax system. Thus it succeeds in keeping both the left and right wing in the story rather than leading them to shut down and dismiss the story as partisan political claptrap nonsense.

I don't see this cleverness in stories like Oxygen or Thin Ice which are slim on laughs and plot. If you can't have a great plot then at least be like Closing Time and bring some smiles. This is where I felt that Michelle Gomez in spite of the potentially hazardous plot concept of Missy/Master was good thanks to the actor's great rapport with the rest of the cast and her own natural sense of drama/humor. So I am not against change if the results come off good.

Unfortunately so many of the stories are heavy on allegory and symbolism for the new post-modern world: the Ice Warriors meet colonial British troops and have a female queen now - and the British capitulate to the female outsider rather than face destruction. The Zygons and humans are indistinguishable - you could be killing an alien invader or a local.
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2017, 12:24:16 PM »

How about...


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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2017, 04:26:05 PM »

House of Cards went downhill. Season 1 and 2 were absolutely amazing. Seasons 3 wasn't as good as the first 2 seasons, but I still loved it. Season 4 was acceptable until things started to become wildly unrealistic at the end. Season 5 was one big wtf.
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2017, 09:42:21 PM »

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« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2017, 08:31:38 AM »


Do you still like the classic series? There are a number of classic series only fans out there.
Or people like me that like both but prefer the classic series....
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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2017, 08:35:01 AM »


What was the initial appeal of the show to you and where / how did it lose its way?

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