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« Reply #50 on: October 18, 2017, 06:39:05 PM »

Very poorly worded, but he wasn't factually wrong.
just like the Clinton quote about deplorables, only that one wasn't even poorly worded, just weirdly taken out of context.

That's because Republicans get butthurt easily, and they blow up their butthurt to extravagant levels making a mountain out of a molehill.  They know Clinton's quote was taken out of context, but Clinton said it, so they had to make it something that it wasn't.

But when Trump says something deplorable, well that's just innocent locker room talk that all men do, no big deal.
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« Reply #51 on: October 18, 2017, 06:54:04 PM »
« Edited: October 18, 2017, 06:55:45 PM by Maxwell »

really this is the biggest who cares story in Trump's entire presidency.

We know Trump's personality. can we stop expecting things from him? there's no reason for this to be the headline of the New York Times and not the failure to extend CHIP, the attempts by Alexander-Murray to help insurance markets, Pruitt's deplorable and vigorous tenure as EPA Administrator, ect. ect.

he probably also told the widow how he once took Jennifer Garner furniture shopping or something.
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« Reply #52 on: October 18, 2017, 07:00:51 PM »

really this is the biggest who cares story in Trump's entire presidency.

We know Trump's personality. can we stop expecting things from him? there's no reason for this to be the headline of the New York Times and not the failure to extend CHIP, the attempts by Alexander-Murray to help insurance markets, Pruitt's deplorable and vigorous tenure as EPA Administrator, ect. ect.

That'd require the media and the Democratic establishment to have interest in topics of substance, rather than stylistic issues and obsessing over Trump's boorishness. They think this is some great shock to the country and will chase everyone away from Trump; it's the same strategy the Clinton campaign used last year to such great effect. It doesn't work, people don't care, and it does nothing to truly turn people against Trump and the GOP. All these "sophisticated suburban Republicans who're appalled by Trump's incivility" don't really exist in large numbers; they're liberal fantasies and delusions. But, I guess harping over superficial, everyday Trumpian sociopathic nonsense is easier than making a case for a lackluster, tried-and-failed, neoliberal policy agenda nobody cares about.
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« Reply #53 on: October 18, 2017, 07:17:39 PM »

This story is ridic.  I am the biggest #NeverTrump there ever has been, but this is a media gotcha story.  There are so many reasons to be pissed at Trump, but this is not one.
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« Reply #54 on: October 18, 2017, 07:40:05 PM »

really this is the biggest who cares story in Trump's entire presidency.

We know Trump's personality. can we stop expecting things from him? there's no reason for this to be the headline of the New York Times and not the failure to extend CHIP, the attempts by Alexander-Murray to help insurance markets, Pruitt's deplorable and vigorous tenure as EPA Administrator, ect. ect.

That'd require the media and the Democratic establishment to have interest in topics of substance, rather than stylistic issues and obsessing over Trump's boorishness. They think this is some great shock to the country and will chase everyone away from Trump; it's the same strategy the Clinton campaign used last year to such great effect. It doesn't work, people don't care, and it does nothing to truly turn people against Trump and the GOP. All these "sophisticated suburban Republicans who're appalled by Trump's incivility" don't really exist in large numbers; they're liberal fantasies and delusions. But, I guess harping over superficial, everyday Trumpian sociopathic nonsense is easier than making a case for a lackluster, tried-and-failed, neoliberal policy agenda nobody cares about.

It's only easier if you don't care about the costs of failure.

Which, to be fair, the Dem and media elite do not. They will never personally suffer the socioeconomic impacts of Trumpolini's tyranny and bad government. (At least, not until the GOP goes full Hitler and starts executing them in job lots.) They likely see Dumb Leader in power as a mixed blessing. Sure, they get the smaller slice of the rulership pie, but they also likely think they get job security. After all, President Moron sets a very low threshold for his opposition to be better than he is.
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« Reply #55 on: October 18, 2017, 07:47:17 PM »
« Edited: October 18, 2017, 07:48:50 PM by shua »

Yes. He knew what he signed up for. That's what makes him a hero. That wasn't obvious to you guys?

I think we all know that if Barack Obama had said something like this to a military widow, you'd be calling for impeachment.

For that matter, Trump let four Americans die in Niger. Why is he not being subject to the same scrutiny Hillary was when four Americans died in Benghazi?

Because Democrats are more concerned about him wording things badly/being rude?
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« Reply #56 on: October 18, 2017, 07:57:25 PM »

The president lying to and about Americans is always a big deal, guys.
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« Reply #57 on: October 18, 2017, 08:12:54 PM »

really this is the biggest who cares story in Trump's entire presidency.

We know Trump's personality. can we stop expecting things from him? there's no reason for this to be the headline of the New York Times and not the failure to extend CHIP, the attempts by Alexander-Murray to help insurance markets, Pruitt's deplorable and vigorous tenure as EPA Administrator, ect. ect.

That'd require the media and the Democratic establishment to have interest in topics of substance, rather than stylistic issues and obsessing over Trump's boorishness. They think this is some great shock to the country and will chase everyone away from Trump; it's the same strategy the Clinton campaign used last year to such great effect. It doesn't work, people don't care, and it does nothing to truly turn people against Trump and the GOP. All these "sophisticated suburban Republicans who're appalled by Trump's incivility" don't really exist in large numbers; they're liberal fantasies and delusions. But, I guess harping over superficial, everyday Trumpian sociopathic nonsense is easier than making a case for a lackluster, tried-and-failed, neoliberal policy agenda nobody cares about.

This would make sense if Trump's poll numbers were higher.

I know some on the left like to believe that this stuff doesn't matter and it is all about the economics (lol what nonsense...). But stuff like this is hurting Trump. He has alienated everyone who isn't a part of his base and a big reason why is his lack of tact and discipline. 

Picking fights with NFL players and sports analysts, lying about your predecessor etc. This stuff is becoming tiresome. People are tired of hearing about this guy everyday and it is reflecting in his poll numbers.
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« Reply #58 on: October 18, 2017, 08:25:28 PM »

The president lying to and about Americans is always a big deal, guys.

Yes. But that's every time he opens his mouth or touches his phone. You grow numb to the horror after a while. Especially when he's practicing other far more damaging and despicable evils on a near-constant basis.

He and the GOP need to be removed. And I grow skeptical of the Dems ability to win, or follow through if they do. I'm getting back to thinking there are no good options left, but to try and get clear of the blast radius when our whole system collapses.  (Are New Zealand, Australia, or the Falklands reasonably self-sufficient?)
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« Reply #59 on: October 18, 2017, 09:41:53 PM »

The president lying to and about Americans is always a big deal, guys.

Yes. But that's every time he opens his mouth or touches his phone. You grow numb to the horror after a while. Especially when he's practicing other far more damaging and despicable evils on a near-constant basis.

Well it shouldn't be that way. He should be held to the same standard of any other president, not given training wheels because he's so pathetic.
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« Reply #60 on: October 18, 2017, 10:00:29 PM »

really this is the biggest who cares story in Trump's entire presidency.

We know Trump's personality. can we stop expecting things from him? there's no reason for this to be the headline of the New York Times and not the failure to extend CHIP, the attempts by Alexander-Murray to help insurance markets, Pruitt's deplorable and vigorous tenure as EPA Administrator, ect. ect.

That'd require the media and the Democratic establishment to have interest in topics of substance, rather than stylistic issues and obsessing over Trump's boorishness. They think this is some great shock to the country and will chase everyone away from Trump; it's the same strategy the Clinton campaign used last year to such great effect. It doesn't work, people don't care, and it does nothing to truly turn people against Trump and the GOP. All these "sophisticated suburban Republicans who're appalled by Trump's incivility" don't really exist in large numbers; they're liberal fantasies and delusions. But, I guess harping over superficial, everyday Trumpian sociopathic nonsense is easier than making a case for a lackluster, tried-and-failed, neoliberal policy agenda nobody cares about.

This would make sense if Trump's poll numbers were higher.

I know some on the left like to believe that this stuff doesn't matter and it is all about the economics (lol what nonsense...). But stuff like this is hurting Trump. He has alienated everyone who isn't a part of his base and a big reason why is his lack of tact and discipline. 

Picking fights with NFL players and sports analysts, lying about your predecessor etc. This stuff is becoming tiresome. People are tired of hearing about this guy everyday and it is reflecting in his poll numbers.

And come election day 2020, Trump will hold onto around 46% of the electorate yet again. His poll numbers were abysmal prior to the '16 election as well, but that didn't stop 46% of Americans from voting for him and a large number to defect to a third party rather than vote for the Democrat. It also hasn't resulted in the loss of a single special election (despite notable increases in vote share for the Democratic candidates) by a Republican since Trump's inauguration. But, sure, keep going with a failed strategy; why not give Trump another 4 years...
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« Reply #61 on: October 18, 2017, 10:47:10 PM »

really this is the biggest who cares story in Trump's entire presidency.

We know Trump's personality. can we stop expecting things from him? there's no reason for this to be the headline of the New York Times and not the failure to extend CHIP, the attempts by Alexander-Murray to help insurance markets, Pruitt's deplorable and vigorous tenure as EPA Administrator, ect. ect.

That'd require the media and the Democratic establishment to have interest in topics of substance, rather than stylistic issues and obsessing over Trump's boorishness. They think this is some great shock to the country and will chase everyone away from Trump; it's the same strategy the Clinton campaign used last year to such great effect. It doesn't work, people don't care, and it does nothing to truly turn people against Trump and the GOP. All these "sophisticated suburban Republicans who're appalled by Trump's incivility" don't really exist in large numbers; they're liberal fantasies and delusions. But, I guess harping over superficial, everyday Trumpian sociopathic nonsense is easier than making a case for a lackluster, tried-and-failed, neoliberal policy agenda nobody cares about.

This would make sense if Trump's poll numbers were higher.

I know some on the left like to believe that this stuff doesn't matter and it is all about the economics (lol what nonsense...). But stuff like this is hurting Trump. He has alienated everyone who isn't a part of his base and a big reason why is his lack of tact and discipline. 

Picking fights with NFL players and sports analysts, lying about your predecessor etc. This stuff is becoming tiresome. People are tired of hearing about this guy everyday and it is reflecting in his poll numbers.

And come election day 2020, Trump will hold onto around 46% of the electorate yet again. His poll numbers were abysmal prior to the '16 election as well, but that didn't stop 46% of Americans from voting for him and a large number to defect to a third party rather than vote for the Democrat. It also hasn't resulted in the loss of a single special election (despite notable increases in vote share for the Democratic candidates) by a Republican since Trump's inauguration. But, sure, keep going with a failed strategy; why not give Trump another 4 years...
That is ridiculous there were factors in 2016 that won't be in play 2020. The biggest is Trump will have a record to run on in 2020 unlike 2016 were he benefited from being a blank slate outsider so a bad record to go with his tiresome personality is deadly, states like Wisonsin and Michigan could have dem governors so "voter fraud" laws that Walker and others used to purge black people won't be around, Milenials will really start coming into their own in 2020 and naturally like all voting blocs do when they age is vote more, , an to add to that people might be having serious buyers remorse on GJ and Stein protest votes and are more likely to show up to rid themselves of Trump, the dem nom isn't likely to be under FBI investigation for email use Tongue, and finally yeah the Russian stuff is out in the open
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« Reply #62 on: October 18, 2017, 11:51:49 PM »

really this is the biggest who cares story in Trump's entire presidency.

We know Trump's personality. can we stop expecting things from him? there's no reason for this to be the headline of the New York Times and not the failure to extend CHIP, the attempts by Alexander-Murray to help insurance markets, Pruitt's deplorable and vigorous tenure as EPA Administrator, ect. ect.

That'd require the media and the Democratic establishment to have interest in topics of substance, rather than stylistic issues and obsessing over Trump's boorishness. They think this is some great shock to the country and will chase everyone away from Trump; it's the same strategy the Clinton campaign used last year to such great effect. It doesn't work, people don't care, and it does nothing to truly turn people against Trump and the GOP. All these "sophisticated suburban Republicans who're appalled by Trump's incivility" don't really exist in large numbers; they're liberal fantasies and delusions. But, I guess harping over superficial, everyday Trumpian sociopathic nonsense is easier than making a case for a lackluster, tried-and-failed, neoliberal policy agenda nobody cares about.

This would make sense if Trump's poll numbers were higher.


I know some on the left like to believe that this stuff doesn't matter and it is all about the economics (lol what nonsense...). But stuff like this is hurting Trump. He has alienated everyone who isn't a part of his base and a big reason why is his lack of tact and discipline. 

Picking fights with NFL players and sports analysts, lying about your predecessor etc. This stuff is becoming tiresome. People are tired of hearing about this guy everyday and it is reflecting in his poll numbers.

His numbers are still about as high as they were or higher than his favorables were close to election day when he defeated Hillary Clinton. Stop.
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« Reply #63 on: October 18, 2017, 11:56:25 PM »

Second Amendment remedies never sounded so good.
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« Reply #64 on: October 19, 2017, 12:09:48 AM »

Second Amendment remedies never sounded so good.

Not this again...
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« Reply #65 on: October 19, 2017, 12:54:00 AM »

really this is the biggest who cares story in Trump's entire presidency.

We know Trump's personality. can we stop expecting things from him? there's no reason for this to be the headline of the New York Times and not the failure to extend CHIP, the attempts by Alexander-Murray to help insurance markets, Pruitt's deplorable and vigorous tenure as EPA Administrator, ect. ect.

That'd require the media and the Democratic establishment to have interest in topics of substance, rather than stylistic issues and obsessing over Trump's boorishness. They think this is some great shock to the country and will chase everyone away from Trump; it's the same strategy the Clinton campaign used last year to such great effect. It doesn't work, people don't care, and it does nothing to truly turn people against Trump and the GOP. All these "sophisticated suburban Republicans who're appalled by Trump's incivility" don't really exist in large numbers; they're liberal fantasies and delusions. But, I guess harping over superficial, everyday Trumpian sociopathic nonsense is easier than making a case for a lackluster, tried-and-failed, neoliberal policy agenda nobody cares about.

This would make sense if Trump's poll numbers were higher.


I know some on the left like to believe that this stuff doesn't matter and it is all about the economics (lol what nonsense...). But stuff like this is hurting Trump. He has alienated everyone who isn't a part of his base and a big reason why is his lack of tact and discipline. 

Picking fights with NFL players and sports analysts, lying about your predecessor etc. This stuff is becoming tiresome. People are tired of hearing about this guy everyday and it is reflecting in his poll numbers.

His numbers are still about as high as they were or higher than his favorables were close to election day when he defeated Hillary Clinton. Stop.

Are you trolling ?
You know that is not true. Go and look at the numbers (and graph) on RCP's poll average.
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« Reply #66 on: October 19, 2017, 03:47:15 AM »

White House says Trump already sent the check by mail.

Generally it's a good policy to assume Trump is lying until proven otherwise.

I interpreted it as he sent the check today because he got caught lying.

And you support a man like that?
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« Reply #67 on: October 19, 2017, 08:16:15 AM »

Second Amendment remedies never sounded so good.

I wish Dumb Leander a long adn healthy life, preferably in a cell or mental health facility. If he is ever shot, it would be a moment of irony for the ages. (And it would be hilarious to watch the NRA response.) But make no mistake, such a result would be even worse for America than President Moron himself. The ascension of President Talkshow Theocrat would be no net gain. It would further damage an already badly broken justice system. It would divide our nation even further and inflame his cult. It would give the totalitarians in the GOP a huge excuse to attack their political opponents, both legally and otherwise. It would make Trump a martyr, and be an unmistakable sign that our democracy is failing.

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« Reply #68 on: October 19, 2017, 12:39:02 PM »

really this is the biggest who cares story in Trump's entire presidency.

We know Trump's personality. can we stop expecting things from him? there's no reason for this to be the headline of the New York Times and not the failure to extend CHIP, the attempts by Alexander-Murray to help insurance markets, Pruitt's deplorable and vigorous tenure as EPA Administrator, ect. ect.

That'd require the media and the Democratic establishment to have interest in topics of substance, rather than stylistic issues and obsessing over Trump's boorishness. They think this is some great shock to the country and will chase everyone away from Trump; it's the same strategy the Clinton campaign used last year to such great effect. It doesn't work, people don't care, and it does nothing to truly turn people against Trump and the GOP. All these "sophisticated suburban Republicans who're appalled by Trump's incivility" don't really exist in large numbers; they're liberal fantasies and delusions. But, I guess harping over superficial, everyday Trumpian sociopathic nonsense is easier than making a case for a lackluster, tried-and-failed, neoliberal policy agenda nobody cares about.

This would make sense if Trump's poll numbers were higher.

I know some on the left like to believe that this stuff doesn't matter and it is all about the economics (lol what nonsense...). But stuff like this is hurting Trump. He has alienated everyone who isn't a part of his base and a big reason why is his lack of tact and discipline. 

Picking fights with NFL players and sports analysts, lying about your predecessor etc. This stuff is becoming tiresome. People are tired of hearing about this guy everyday and it is reflecting in his poll numbers.

And come election day 2020, Trump will hold onto around 46% of the electorate yet again. His poll numbers were abysmal prior to the '16 election as well, but that didn't stop 46% of Americans from voting for him and a large number to defect to a third party rather than vote for the Democrat. It also hasn't resulted in the loss of a single special election (despite notable increases in vote share for the Democratic candidates) by a Republican since Trump's inauguration. But, sure, keep going with a failed strategy; why not give Trump another 4 years...

I highly doubt that.

Trump got a ton of support from reluctant voters, who didn't like Clinton and decided to give him a chance. Unless he magically gets better at his job, he won't get 46% again. I doubt anyone (besides maybe Warren) that the D's nominate in 2020 is going to have the issues in terms of favorables as Hillary had in 2016.

People are really overrating how strong Trump actually is. Hell, if Comey didn't drop that letter, Clinton would have likely won.
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« Reply #69 on: October 19, 2017, 12:44:15 PM »

really this is the biggest who cares story in Trump's entire presidency.

We know Trump's personality. can we stop expecting things from him? there's no reason for this to be the headline of the New York Times and not the failure to extend CHIP, the attempts by Alexander-Murray to help insurance markets, Pruitt's deplorable and vigorous tenure as EPA Administrator, ect. ect.

That'd require the media and the Democratic establishment to have interest in topics of substance, rather than stylistic issues and obsessing over Trump's boorishness. They think this is some great shock to the country and will chase everyone away from Trump; it's the same strategy the Clinton campaign used last year to such great effect. It doesn't work, people don't care, and it does nothing to truly turn people against Trump and the GOP. All these "sophisticated suburban Republicans who're appalled by Trump's incivility" don't really exist in large numbers; they're liberal fantasies and delusions. But, I guess harping over superficial, everyday Trumpian sociopathic nonsense is easier than making a case for a lackluster, tried-and-failed, neoliberal policy agenda nobody cares about.

This would make sense if Trump's poll numbers were higher.


I know some on the left like to believe that this stuff doesn't matter and it is all about the economics (lol what nonsense...). But stuff like this is hurting Trump. He has alienated everyone who isn't a part of his base and a big reason why is his lack of tact and discipline. 

Picking fights with NFL players and sports analysts, lying about your predecessor etc. This stuff is becoming tiresome. People are tired of hearing about this guy everyday and it is reflecting in his poll numbers.

His numbers are still about as high as they were or higher than his favorables were close to election day when he defeated Hillary Clinton. Stop.

But his favorables are now effecting his job approval numbers. Seriously, go look at the comments from various focus groups. It is Trump's temperament and personality that is hurting him the most.
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« Reply #70 on: October 19, 2017, 03:53:05 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps5ttDzWBaY
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« Reply #71 on: October 19, 2017, 04:05:20 PM »

God bless John Kelly.
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« Reply #72 on: October 19, 2017, 04:48:26 PM »


Badger wants a knockity-knock-knock visit from the Secret Service, it seems.

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« Reply #73 on: October 19, 2017, 05:52:54 PM »


Amen and those who think this man is not the best of the best can go fck off
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« Reply #74 on: October 19, 2017, 06:02:08 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/19/john-kellys-fiery-defense-of-trumps-shot-at-obama-and-gold-star-phone-call-annotated/

Kelly brilliantly defended Trumpolini on this. I suspect that beating this particular horse further will only hurt the Dems and the left.

I fear it will take re-electing him (if that) for the opposition to stop making the mistake of ignoring his failure and incompetence. Instead they keep whining about his personality and tyranny to people who don't care.

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