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JA
Jacobin American
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« on: October 18, 2017, 07:08:18 PM »
« edited: October 18, 2017, 07:10:46 PM by Jacobin American »

Who's the moron that started the hype about Arizona becoming some Democratic state? The Democrats haven't made any improvements in the state in the past several election cycles; 2016 was simply a poor GOP performance in the state, not some great Democratic inroads.

2016: 44.58% Clinton | 48.08% Trump
2012: 44.45% Obama | 53.48% Romney
2008: 44.91% Obama | 53.39% McCain
2004: 44.32% Kerry | 54.77% Bush Jr.
2000: 44.67% Gore | 50.95% Bush Jr.
1996: 46.52% Clinton | 44.29% Dole
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JA
Jacobin American
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,955
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2017, 09:00:25 PM »

This should be the dems strategy in 2020(In states to Flip):

1. Michigan
2. Pennsylvania
3. Florida
4. North Carolina
5. Wisconsin
6. Arizona
7. Georgia  

I'd move Wisconsin above North Carolina and maybe Florida (I say maybe only because of the mass migration of Puerto Ricans into Florida). Aside from that, I basically agree with you.
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JA
Jacobin American
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,955
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2017, 09:09:31 PM »

Who's the moron that started the hype about Arizona becoming some Democratic state? The Democrats haven't made any improvements in the state in the past several election cycles; 2016 was simply a poor GOP performance in the state, not some great Democratic inroads.

2016: 44.58% Clinton | 48.08% Trump
2012: 44.45% Obama | 53.48% Romney
2008: 44.91% Obama | 53.39% McCain
2004: 44.32% Kerry | 54.77% Bush Jr.
2000: 44.67% Gore | 50.95% Bush Jr.
1996: 46.52% Clinton | 44.29% Dole
This is the dumbest ing thing I have ever heard. The third party vote in AZ was not a conservative one.


Um no , many Gary Johnson voters were Romney voters and Never Trump Republicans.

MOST Johnson voters (~80%) were liberals/moderates, not these NeverTrump Truh Conservatuhs who held their noses for the Donald.

Anyway to the point of JA, how would you explain Maricopa County Democrats having a banner year across the board? I don't think Arizona is his Democratic state in disguise by any means, but it could certainly become a swing state, if it already isn't one. Downballot Democrats did better in nearly all county races than hillary did here.

I should've specified that I only meant at the Presidential level; I wasn't commenting on other races in the state. I'd want to see the results of the Midterms and Gubernatorial election, along with the polls and results of the 2020 election before making any conclusion about Arizona moving Democratic, especially at the Presidential level. No doubt Arizona trended Democratic for Clinton last year, but based on its past voting history its Democratic voting pattern appears to be rather inelastic.
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