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Beet
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« on: October 19, 2017, 12:39:24 AM »

“We don’t have the luxury to walk out of this room divided.” Tom Perez as he silently removes dissent.

He's right. The democratic party must remain united behind capitalism. If they become the party of Bernie, Trump will be re-elected.

They will do exactly that - and they will continue to lose elections.
Well they can't adopt Bernie plan either. Socialism and even left wing populism can not work in American politics because Republicans will use it as a racial wedge issue. Democrats do not want debate whether football players should get free tuition or illegal immigrants get free health care in 2018 or 2020.

Because they're cowards.

No, because these are the kind of incendiary divisive topics that split the electoral just the way Trump likes, which is why he always harps on this stuff. It pits the majority of the electorate against the "other." A better way is to craft a broad appeal to the personal self-interests of the vast majority of the electorate, like Corbyn's "For the Many" slogan, which is a message well-suited for left wing populism, anyway.
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Beet
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2017, 12:49:06 AM »

“We don’t have the luxury to walk out of this room divided.” Tom Perez as he silently removes dissent.

He's right. The democratic party must remain united behind capitalism. If they become the party of Bernie, Trump will be re-elected.

They will do exactly that - and they will continue to lose elections.
Well they can't adopt Bernie plan either. Socialism and even left wing populism can not work in American politics because Republicans will use it as a racial wedge issue. Democrats do not want debate whether football players should get free tuition or illegal immigrants get free health care in 2018 or 2020.

Because they're cowards.

No, because these are the kind of incendiary divisive topics that split the electoral just the way Trump likes, which is why he always harps on this stuff. It pits the majority of the electorate against the "other." A better way is to craft a broad appeal to the personal self-interests of the vast majority of the electorate, like Corbyn's "For the Many" slogan, which is a message well-suited for left wing populism, anyway.

I'd argue Corbyn's success has more to do with his convictions and the strength with which he defends them, not his slogan.

No, it's his slogan.
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Beet
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2017, 01:02:28 AM »

Conviction only works if it's about things the electorate already agrees with to begin with. People who believe that's all you need live in a world so luxurious, the result of politics is entirely within their control, if they only do the right thing, and no matter what happens, it's what they deserve. All they have to do is forthrightly express their views for the majority to accede to them. Why, winning elections is as easy as a slice of Apple Pie, and as just as the statue of blind justice outside our courthouses. Not all of us live in this beautiful heaven.
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