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« on: October 20, 2017, 07:20:54 PM »

I was actually planning on starting with 1844, but I want to be sure I have discussion, so I'll go backwards and start with '16.



Each runoff election takes place a week after election day between the top two finishers within the state, which for all the states here and for most of the time generally is between D and R with no third parties. McMullin tried to make the runoff in Utah, so that he could force Trump into accepting more establishment GOP ideology to win the state's 6 EV, but he failed.

Maine will have a statewide runoff which will allocate a pair of its electoral votes, the other pair already assigned. Nebraska will have a runoff only in its second CD, to allocate a single electoral vote.



Here are the states that will be having runoff elections for senate. LA has the same system as OTL and AK will be Murkowski vs. Miller. All the other senatorial runoffs will concur with the presidential runoff and will have better turnout.

WV, NC, and NH will all have runoff gubernatorial elections. There are no runoff elections for congress's lower chamber.

Currently Trump leads the EC 198-183.
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2017, 07:39:51 PM »

I was actually planning on starting with 1844, but I want to be sure I have discussion, so I'll go backwards and start with '16.



Each runoff election takes place a week after election day between the top two finishers within the state, which for all the states here and for most of the time generally is between D and R with no third parties. McMullin tried to make the runoff in Utah, so that he could force Trump into accepting more establishment GOP ideology to win the state's 6 EV, but he failed.

Maine will have a statewide runoff which will allocate a pair of its electoral votes, the other pair already assigned. Nebraska will have a runoff only in its second CD, to allocate a single electoral vote.



Here are the states that will be having runoff elections for senate. LA has the same system as OTL and AK will be Murkowski vs. Miller. All the other senatorial runoffs will concur with the presidential runoff and will have better turnout.

WV, NC, and NH will all have runoff gubernatorial elections. There are no runoff elections for congress's lower chamber.

Currently Trump leads the EC 198-183.

Oooh, interesting!
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2017, 07:44:35 PM »

States that change from OTL:

WI
PA
MI
NH
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2017, 03:45:50 PM »
« Edited: October 24, 2017, 03:49:43 PM by tack50 »

My guess: The reality of "Trump has a real shot at becoming president" actually sinks in and causes higher turnout among Democratic leaning voters, enough to flip Florida, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and NE-02. End result:



308-230

The Senate stays the same as in our timeline except for Pennsylvania, which flips

D+3, 49D-51R

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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2017, 04:15:49 PM »

WI also gets a runoff, as Ron Johnson didn't crack 50 until the recount. Runoff rules in place, no recount happens, so WI goes to round 2.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2017, 04:43:45 PM »

WI also gets a runoff, as Ron Johnson didn't crack 50 until the recount. Runoff rules in place, no recount happens, so WI goes to round 2.

Good catch! If tack50's scenario happens Feingold may get his seat back.
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2017, 12:17:07 PM »



Florida only does runoff, and Romney wins because the GOP leaning voters came out for him overwhelmingly, realizing they could have changed the election in other states.

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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2017, 05:52:13 PM »

I think for elections like 2004, 08, and 12 with token runoffs, the opposite would occur and runoff elections would be victory parties for the candidate that already won unless there is a gubernatorial or senatorial election that has also gone to a runoff.
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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2017, 06:17:49 PM »

MI,WI,PA flip, possibly FL

FeinGod and McGinty get Senate seats, which +Kaine is a majority.

All the other Senate races stay the same.

Murkowski wipes the floor with Miller.
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2017, 09:11:07 PM »

It would be a less dramatic version of the French runoff in 2017, with basically all 3rd party votes going to Clinton after Johnson, Stein, etc. endorse her.  She would win all of the outstanding Obama states by 2008 style margins plus AZ.
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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2017, 06:17:51 PM »

Alrighty, y'all say that Clinton would turn things around in 2016. Now for 2000:



224-217 Gore

Could Gore capture enough of the Nader vote to win?
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2017, 06:19:23 PM »

Alrighty, y'all say that Clinton would turn things around in 2016. Now for 2000:



224-217 Gore

Could Gore capture enough of the Nader vote to win?

Yes.
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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2017, 06:30:06 PM »

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