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« on: October 21, 2017, 10:51:03 AM »

A Chicago alderman thinks so


no, businesses should be able to make their own rules on how they take your money
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2017, 11:03:32 AM »

I think there is very definitely an argument to be made that certain types of business should have to accept cash. Not for the reasons highlighted in the article so much, but for the fact that a lot of people on lower incomes, espcially with poor credit scores, don't have, and are unable to get, bank accounts and would therefore be excluded from a cashless economy.
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2017, 01:40:28 PM »

Legal tender is legal tender. It has to be accepted.
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2017, 02:35:46 PM »

Any civil libertarian should rightly fear the imposition of a cashless society and what it represents to individual privacy.
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2017, 02:54:54 PM »

You sure?  Many libertarians are in love with cryptocurrencies because they take power away from the state.
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2017, 02:17:55 PM »

Legal tender is legal tender. It has to be accepted.
Only for debts,  There's no requirement that a business must accept cash at the moment of sale.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2017, 02:20:29 PM »

The wave of the future is debit cards.  Cash will be suspect.
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2017, 07:13:58 PM »

Cash is obsolete.
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2017, 09:57:22 AM »

But can be faster in some situations.
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2017, 11:56:45 AM »

Yes. De facto discrimination against the elderly and the poor. I voted "some third thing" because I think it should be some sort of civil violation as opposed to a criminal one, but the gist of my opinion is "yes".
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2017, 11:58:51 AM »

     If a store wants to use credit/debit exclusively, that's fine. It is true that many people in certain communities still use cash primarily, but stores in those communities will continue to cater to them. I don't see a cashless society feasible in the short/medium-term, nor do I find it desirable, but we are gradually moving in that direction.
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2017, 12:00:41 PM »

Certain types of businesses should be required to take cash, such as grocery stores, etc. but legal tender only relates to debt, and it does not mean that all businesses have to take cash. Banning cashless stores outright is going a bit too far.
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2017, 02:08:14 PM »

Any civil libertarian should rightly fear the imposition of a cashless society and what it represents to individual privacy.

Stores choosing to be cashless or not isn't an "imposition". The imposition is to ban cashless stores.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2017, 01:22:32 PM »

Any civil libertarian should rightly fear the imposition of a cashless society and what it represents to individual privacy.

Stores choosing to be cashless or not isn't an "imposition". The imposition is to ban cashless stores.

The implication being the ability to observe cashless payments or to arrest accounts owing to their digital or institutional basis.
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2017, 02:07:11 PM »

The key people pushing a "cashless society" are Central Bankers.
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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2017, 03:50:48 PM »

The key people pushing a "cashless society" are Central Bankers.
maybe, but that's not the question
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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2017, 04:39:16 PM »


Especially with this new sh**tty chip system, ugh.
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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2017, 05:34:04 PM »


Chip cards are the first paving stone on the way to widespread contactless payment, although knowing America, that's probably 10 years off.
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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2017, 06:21:21 PM »


Chip cards are the first paving stone on the way to widespread contactless payment, although knowing America, that's probably 10 years off.

My card (from Santander Bank Tongue) actually has contactless functionality. Most merchants still don't use it though, and even in many of those that say they do it doesn't actually work.
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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2017, 01:06:44 AM »

What does “obsolete” here mean?
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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2017, 01:58:10 AM »

What does “obsolete” here mean?
Unnecessarily inconvenient. Archaic. Wasteful.
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« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2017, 06:59:30 AM »

What does “obsolete” here mean?
Unnecessarily inconvenient. Archaic. Wasteful.

Gas is generally cheaper in my area if you pay in cash. Check out at your local party store can be made a tad easier with the use of cash. It can also help one budget more easily.
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« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2017, 07:07:44 AM »

Any civil libertarian should rightly fear the imposition of a cashless society and what it represents to individual privacy.
Ding ding ding.
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« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2017, 07:25:22 AM »

Any civil libertarian should rightly fear the imposition of a cashless society and what it represents to individual privacy.
Ding ding ding.
it's always interesting to be told what X is by people who are certainly not X.  Again.
You sure?  Many libertarians are in love with cryptocurrencies because they take power away from the state.
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Any civil libertarian should rightly fear the imposition of a cashless society and what it represents to individual privacy.

Stores choosing to be cashless or not isn't an "imposition". The imposition is to ban cashless stores.
is correct too.
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« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2017, 02:25:20 PM »

Yes.  Many people do not have access to cards.
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