After Weinstein’s fall, Trump accusers wonder: Why not him?

[Beet]

Almost a year after New Yorker Jessica Leeds and other women stepped forward with harrowing accounts of being sexually assaulted by a powerful man, another scandal with similar elements exploded.

Only this time, the punishment was swift and devastating.

“It is hard to reconcile that Harvey Weinstein could be brought down with this, and [President] Trump just continues to be the Teflon Don,” said Leeds, who claims she was groped 30 years ago on a plane by the man whose presence she cannot escape now that he sits in the Oval Office.

In Florida, Melinda McGillivray, was having much the same reaction.

“What pisses me off is that the guy is president,” McGillivray, who a year ago went public with allegations that Trump grabbed her at Mar-a-Lago in 2003 when she was 23. “It’s that simple.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/my-pain-is-everyday-after-weinsteins-fall-trump-accusers-wonder-why-not-him/2017/10/21/bce67720-b585-11e7-be94-fabb0f1e9ffb_story.html

[NewYorkExpress]

Are we sure we can impeach the President for actions taken before he/she enters office?

[GeorgiaModerate]

Are we sure we can impeach the President for actions taken before he/she enters office?

The Constitution (Article II, Section 4) says this:

"The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors."

There is nothing there that limits this to actions taken during the term of office.  

[daveosupremo]

Evidence

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Evidence

How much more do you need?

[Virginiá]

Are we sure we can impeach the President for actions taken before he/she enters office?

The Constitution (Article II, Section 4) says this:

"The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors."

There is nothing there that limits this to actions taken during the term of office.  

I was under the impression that impeachment is basically a political action, and they can really remove him for whatever reason they want. It's up to them to determine what all that (high crimes, etc) means. After all, it's not like a Senate conviction is equivalent to a criminal conviction. It's just to remove him from office.

[7,052,770]

The difference is that Republicans largely stood by Trump, while nobody did that for Harvey

[DrScholl]

Trump is protected by partisan politics, whereas Weinstein is a Hollywood producer that is being held accountable by the private sector. Trump could have been abandoned by the GOP after the Access Hollywood tape, but they wanted the Presidency and chose to overlook it.

[Holmes]

Republicans wanted a tax cut and hated Obama so much that they by and large stood by Trump even after the Access Hollywood tape, revealing themselves to be complete hypocrites and scumbags.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Trump is protected by partisan politics, whereas Weinstein is a Hollywood producer that is being held accountable by the private sector. Trump could have been abandoned by the GOP after the Access Hollywood tape, but they wanted the Presidency and chose to overlook it.

It's not just a public/private sector divide, or Bill O'Reilly would be long gone from Fox.

[SNJ1985]

The difference is that Republicans largely stood by Trump, while nobody did that for Harvey

Hollywood had some knowledge of what Harvey was up to and stood by him until the public found out. His behavior is referenced in episodes of TV shows that were produced years ago.

[DrScholl]

Trump is protected by partisan politics, whereas Weinstein is a Hollywood producer that is being held accountable by the private sector. Trump could have been abandoned by the GOP after the Access Hollywood tape, but they wanted the Presidency and chose to overlook it.

It's not just a public/private sector divide, or Bill O'Reilly would be long gone from Fox.

Fox News is a media outlet for conservatives and their audience wanted to see Bill O'Reilly, so they kept him on as long as they possibly could. It was only when the sponsors started to pull ads that Fox News decided to fire him. Politics played a role there.

[DrScholl]

The difference is that Republicans largely stood by Trump, while nobody did that for Harvey

Hollywood had some knowledge of what Harvey was up to and stood by him until the public found out. His behavior is referenced in episodes of TV shows that were produced years ago.

Republicans had some knowledge of what Trump was up to and stood by him until after the public found out. His behavior is referenced in episodes of TV shows that were produced year ago.

Not only that, but Trump referenced his behavior in his own words and the Republican Party still didn't drop him.

[SNJ1985]

All I'm saying is that Hollywood doesn't deserve to be praised or held up as more moral than the Republicans who stood by Trump.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Hollywood is a centre of moral accountability whereas the Republican party is not

[Alabama_Indy10]

Hollywood is a centre of moral accountability whereas the Republican party is not

I literally spit out my drink when I read this. Lol

[pbrower2a]

Hollywood is a centre of moral accountability whereas the Republican party is not

The casting couch, an allegation that has been in existence since the silent film era, is no myth.

Donald Trump is the first Presidential nominee to admit to sexual assault (as in, "I grab them by their  [crorches])"

As a juror, I could convict someone of sexual assault in the event of someone grabbing a woman by her "kitty-cat" without consent, I am not sure that intentional or reckless penetration without at least implicit consent would constitute rape... but I could vote for rape under some circumstances.

The penetration could be as slight as  a fingernail. 

[Confused Democrat]

Evidence

Wasn't there basically enough evidence on Trump as there was on Weinstein or am I missing something

No, I don't think so. Weinstein actually settled with a lot of the woman he sexually harassed. I don't think T

[Confused Democrat]

Evidence

Wasn't there basically enough evidence on Trump as there was on Weinstein or am I missing something

No, I don't think so. Weinstein actually settled with a lot of the woman he sexually harassed. I don't think Trump has payed any of his accusers off.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

All I'm saying is that Hollywood doesn't deserve to be praised or held up as more moral than the Republicans who stood by Trump.

Because holding someone to account for their actions vs. making them President is totally the same.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Republicans wanted a tax cut and hated Obama so much that they by and large stood by Trump even after the Access Hollywood tape, revealing themselves to be complete hypocrites and scumbags.

Yeah I don't want to hear a word from Republicans about "family values" ever again

You'll hear about it every year for the next 30+ years that Justice Gorsuch is on the bench.

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Almost a year after New Yorker Jessica Leeds and other women stepped forward with harrowing accounts of being sexually assaulted by a powerful man, another scandal with similar elements exploded.

Only this time, the punishment was swift and devastating.

“It is hard to reconcile that Harvey Weinstein could be brought down with this, and [President] Trump just continues to be the Teflon Don,” said Leeds, who claims she was groped 30 years ago on a plane by the man whose presence she cannot escape now that he sits in the Oval Office.

In Florida, Melinda McGillivray, was having much the same reaction.

“What pisses me off is that the guy is president,” McGillivray, who a year ago went public with allegations that Trump grabbed her at Mar-a-Lago in 2003 when she was 23. “It’s that simple.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/my-pain-is-everyday-after-weinsteins-fall-trump-accusers-wonder-why-not-him/2017/10/21/bce67720-b585-11e7-be94-fabb0f1e9ffb_story.html

Because it was clearly a political attack that everyone saw coming a mile away.

Then you had porn stars getting involved. Gloria Allred.

It was clearly a hit job. They did the same thing to Arnold Schwarzenegger during his run for governor.

The New York Times even hinted early in 2016 that they were going to use women (including Alicia Machado) as a weapon against Trump. The Access Hollywood tape was discovered in March 2016 and all the media knew about it. They had it all planned.

Frickin sick that Democrats would use sexual assault as a political weapon but I wouldn't put anything past them.

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Almost a year after New Yorker Jessica Leeds and other women stepped forward with harrowing accounts of being sexually assaulted by a powerful man, another scandal with similar elements exploded.

Only this time, the punishment was swift and devastating.

“It is hard to reconcile that Harvey Weinstein could be brought down with this, and [President] Trump just continues to be the Teflon Don,” said Leeds, who claims she was groped 30 years ago on a plane by the man whose presence she cannot escape now that he sits in the Oval Office.

In Florida, Melinda McGillivray, was having much the same reaction.

“What pisses me off is that the guy is president,” McGillivray, who a year ago went public with allegations that Trump grabbed her at Mar-a-Lago in 2003 when she was 23. “It’s that simple.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/my-pain-is-everyday-after-weinsteins-fall-trump-accusers-wonder-why-not-him/2017/10/21/bce67720-b585-11e7-be94-fabb0f1e9ffb_story.html

Because it was clearly a political attack that everyone saw coming a mile away.

Then you had porn stars getting involved. Gloria Allred.

It was clearly a hit job. They did the same thing to Arnold Schwarzenegger during his run for governor.

The New York Times even hinted early in 2016 that they were going to use women (including Alicia Machado) as a weapon against Trump. The Access Hollywood tape was discovered in March 2016 and all the media knew about it. They had it all planned.

Frickin sick that Democrats would use sexual assault as a political weapon but I wouldn't put anything past them.

Arnold is a #resistance hero, so his sexual assaults were OK.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Almost a year after New Yorker Jessica Leeds and other women stepped forward with harrowing accounts of being sexually assaulted by a powerful man, another scandal with similar elements exploded.

Only this time, the punishment was swift and devastating.

“It is hard to reconcile that Harvey Weinstein could be brought down with this, and [President] Trump just continues to be the Teflon Don,” said Leeds, who claims she was groped 30 years ago on a plane by the man whose presence she cannot escape now that he sits in the Oval Office.

In Florida, Melinda McGillivray, was having much the same reaction.

“What pisses me off is that the guy is president,” McGillivray, who a year ago went public with allegations that Trump grabbed her at Mar-a-Lago in 2003 when she was 23. “It’s that simple.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/my-pain-is-everyday-after-weinsteins-fall-trump-accusers-wonder-why-not-him/2017/10/21/bce67720-b585-11e7-be94-fabb0f1e9ffb_story.html

Because it was clearly a political attack that everyone saw coming a mile away.

Then you had porn stars getting involved. Gloria Allred.

It was clearly a hit job. They did the same thing to Arnold Schwarzenegger during his run for governor.

The New York Times even hinted early in 2016 that they were going to use women (including Alicia Machado) as a weapon against Trump. The Access Hollywood tape was discovered in March 2016 and all the media knew about it. They had it all planned.

Frickin sick that Democrats would use sexual assault as a political weapon but I wouldn't put anything past them.

Come on. There have been accusations against Trump since long before he was a candidate.  There was a rape allegation (later recanted) in Ivana'a 1990 divorce proceeding, and Jill Harth sued Trump for sexual harassment in 1997.  That suit was withdrawn when Trump settled another suit by Harth for breach of contract.

Also, don't forget that the Access Hollywood tape in which Trump boasted of grabbing women by the genitals was recorded in 2005!  It's simply not correct to say that this all came out of nowhere when Trump started running.

[Fuzzy Says: "Abolish NPR!"]

Hollywood is a centre of moral accountability whereas the Republican party is not

I literally spit out my drink when I read this. Lol

I thought:  "This is your brain on drugs!".