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« on: October 23, 2017, 02:52:19 AM »

Or did trump do better/worse than people thought he would do there?
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2017, 07:12:13 PM »

Trump did better than expected here. Nearly everyone knew he was going to win it, but not by the biggest margin for a presidential race since 1988.
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2017, 04:57:39 PM »

I don't believe there was any Staten Island county poll for the election, as least i can find of, but i bet he definitely over performed in the county according to such a poll as he did in other states and regions with the similar white working class and Italian/Irish White Ethnic and also with the average state polling overall in the Midwest and Northeastern regions.

EDIT: On a second note i did find one county prediction for them by http://benchmark.shareblue.com/counties/. As expected the prediction only showed Richmond county at plus 7 with Trump doing much better then expected according to that.
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2017, 05:16:35 PM »

I don't believe there was any Staten Island county poll for the election, as least i can find of, but i bet he definitely over performed in the county according to such a poll as he did in other states and regions with the similar white working class and Italian/Irish White Ethnic and also with the average state polling overall in the Midwest and Northeastern regions.

EDIT: On a second note i did find one county prediction for them by http://benchmark.shareblue.com/counties/. As expected the prediction only showed Richmond county at plus 7 with Trump doing much better then expected according to that.
I'm pretty sure that shareblue just used a uniform swing, because they completely failed to predict most Clinton-Romney or Trump-Obama counties.
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2017, 07:16:54 PM »

I don't believe there was any Staten Island county poll for the election, as least i can find of, but i bet he definitely over performed in the county according to such a poll as he did in other states and regions with the similar white working class and Italian/Irish White Ethnic and also with the average state polling overall in the Midwest and Northeastern regions.

EDIT: On a second note i did find one county prediction for them by http://benchmark.shareblue.com/counties/. As expected the prediction only showed Richmond county at plus 7 with Trump doing much better then expected according to that.
I'm pretty sure that shareblue just used a uniform swing, because they completely failed to predict most Clinton-Romney or Trump-Obama counties.

Yea in retrospect the 2016 prediction county maps often vastly underrepresented the swing Clinton-Romney and Obama-Trump county. I wouldn't exactly blame them since the state polls were wrong and misleading in the end but trumps push towards 2012 Obama voters and clintons push toward moderate republican 2012 Romney voters should of been obvious to many of these predictors that each of these canids yes would gain in those demographics and county's. Though not exactly a prediction 538s article https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/clinton-trump-vote-maps-2016/ broadly in correct in the county flips mentioned. Shareblues prediction though as you said most likely universal swing themed prediction may of seen reasonable during the campaign but now look ridiculous. At least put some effort into very visibly strategys and focus/message among other factors.
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