Will NOW Defend This Woman

[they don't love you like i love you]

BRTD is either completely ignorant of history (very possible) or wants to hand out medals for butchering innocent people in front of their families. Thus, I don't see why he should care whether there was abuse or not.

I absolutely despise the IRA. However I am not bothered about time the time when they attacked the home of a murderous UVF commander, dragged him outside, and then shot him in front of his wife.

The people John Brown murdered had done nothing wrong. They owned no slaves, and their only crime was being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

They were pro-slavery activists.

Every heard of Quantrill's Raiders? I doubt all of them owned slaves either.

[dazzleman]

She is a prominent feminist author who supports porn.

So I guess that makes her a wonderful person.

[they don't love you like i love you]

She is a prominent feminist author who supports porn.

So I guess that makes her a wonderful person.

Sounds like sarcasm.

Point is she completely disproves your stereotype you throw on all feminists.

I can name more pro-porn feminists too.

[dazzleman]

She is a prominent feminist author who supports porn.

So I guess that makes her a wonderful person.

Sounds like sarcasm.

Point is she completely disproves your stereotype you throw on all feminists.

I can name more pro-porn feminists too.

Whatever.  Every movement has disparite elements, but that doesn't necessarily change the thrust of the movement.  And supporting porn does not mean that a feminist is not anti-male.

There are also some dissident elements of feminism, such as the i-feminists, that are for equity between the sexes rather than gender feminists, as represented by NOW.

When I say feminist, I am referring to anti-male groups like NOW who will defend even the most reprehensible conduct by women while condemning the same conduct by men.  And it has nothing to do with whether a person supports porn, which seems to be the yardstick by which you measure everything.

[A18]

BRTD is either completely ignorant of history (very possible) or wants to hand out medals for butchering innocent people in front of their families. Thus, I don't see why he should care whether there was abuse or not.

I absolutely despise the IRA. However I am not bothered about time the time when they attacked the home of a murderous UVF commander, dragged him outside, and then shot him in front of his wife.

The people John Brown murdered had done nothing wrong. They owned no slaves, and their only crime was being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

They were pro-slavery activists.

Every heard of Quantrill's Raiders? I doubt all of them owned slaves either.

What is your point?

[dazzleman]

What is your point?

As usual, there is none, at least not a coherent one.  Maybe he'll argue that they should have been killed because they didn't support strip clubs or pornography.

Recognize that BRTD doesn't hold opinions; he simply has attitudes.  There's a big difference.

[A18]

He claims to oppose the death penalty for crimes of extraordinary cruelty, and even brags about how his state is so 'enlightened' for banning it so long ago.

And yet he approves of butchering someone in front of his family who did absolutely nothing except hold an opinion.

[they don't love you like i love you]

There was ongoing sectarian violence between pro-slavery and anti-slavery forces. That's what Bleeing Kansas was all about. most of the pro-slavery people in Kansas did not own slaves themselves, but supported slavery and the Confederacy.

[A18]

There is substantial evidence that 90% of 'Bleeding Kansas' was just media hype. Still not getting how being pro-slavery justifies the death penalty, but raping a child and burying her alive to die does not.

Notice most pro-life groups don't support hacking you into pieces.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Well attacking children is not OK.

But I can't oppose trying to eliminate slavery. Few complain today about slave rebellions where slaves would break out and murder their owners and overseers.

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Dazzzleman, you're one of my favourite posters on a lot of things but I can't tell why you go after this issue so much.  I mean, it pisses me off too but it seems like half of your topics are about feminism.  Why is it such a huge issue to you?

Dazzleman doesn't actually stand for anything, he just stands against straw man stuff.

[dazzleman]

Dazzzleman, you're one of my favourite posters on a lot of things but I can't tell why you go after this issue so much.  I mean, it pisses me off too but it seems like half of your topics are about feminism.  Why is it such a huge issue to you?

Dazzleman doesn't actually stand for anything, he just stands against straw man stuff.

You define any fact that lays bare the ridiculousness of the philosophy that you espouse as a "straw man."  Is it a straw man that NOW supported Andrea Yates, as you originally implied?

[they don't love you like i love you]

Yes, he mindlessly bashes all fminists ignoring the good ones. What is wrong with this brnach of feminism? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-positive_feminism

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[Why don't YOU explain who Annie Sprinkle is? Her name makes me think of a porn star.

Exactly.  This is a standard BRTD tactic.  When he's wrong on the overall question, which is basically all the time, he starts to argue over some obscure detail.

I don't know who Annie Sprinkle is, and I couldn't care less.

No, he's just not allowing you to generalize your straw man argument.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Dazzzleman, you're one of my favourite posters on a lot of things but I can't tell why you go after this issue so much.  I mean, it pisses me off too but it seems like half of your topics are about feminism.  Why is it such a huge issue to you?

Dazzleman doesn't actually stand for anything, he just stands against straw man stuff.

You define any fact that lays bare the ridiculousness of the philosophy that you espouse as a "straw man."  Is it a straw man that NOW supported Andrea Yates, as you originally implied?

You claim that all feminists are like MacKinnon and Dworkin.

Betty Dodson is a promiment feminist author who also supports porn. She also attacked many other feminists she has accused of being anti-male. So what's wrong with her?

[they don't love you like i love you]

I am also pretty confident that if I did a poll of strippers at a club during a busy time at least a few would identify as feminist. Do you dispute that?

[dazzleman]

[Why don't YOU explain who Annie Sprinkle is? Her name makes me think of a porn star.

Exactly.  This is a standard BRTD tactic.  When he's wrong on the overall question, which is basically all the time, he starts to argue over some obscure detail.

I don't know who Annie Sprinkle is, and I couldn't care less.

No, he's just not allowing you to generalize your straw man argument.

If somebody argued that the Nazis were anti-Jewish, BRTD would find one Nazi party member who had a Jewish friend, and to him that would be "proof" that the Nazis weren't anti-Jewish.  I guess I shouldn't generalize about the Nazis though; I'm sure there were a few who supported the cause for reasons other than anti-Semitism.  It would be a straw man argument to claim that they were anti-Jewish.

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[Why don't YOU explain who Annie Sprinkle is? Her name makes me think of a porn star.

Exactly.  This is a standard BRTD tactic.  When he's wrong on the overall question, which is basically all the time, he starts to argue over some obscure detail.

I don't know who Annie Sprinkle is, and I couldn't care less.

No, he's just not allowing you to generalize your straw man argument.

If somebody argued that the Nazis were anti-Jewish, BRTD would find one Nazi party member who had a Jewish friend, and to him that would be "proof" that the Nazis weren't anti-Jewish.  I guess I shouldn't generalize about the Nazis though; I'm sure there were a few who supported the cause for reasons other than anti-Semitism.  It would be a straw man argument to claim that they were anti-Jewish.

Wow, another straw man argument. Of course BRTD wouldn't argue that the Nazis were anti-Jewish you straw manning fool.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Why would I defend Nazis? I absolutely hate them, and that's why I would've supported the anti-Nazi resistance movements in Europe who killed anyone who supported or sympathized with them.

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Why would I defend Nazis? I absolutely hate them, and that's why I would've supported the anti-Nazi resistance movements in Europe who killed anyone who supported or sympathized with them.

Ironic that he committed another straw man after being attacked for having only straw men arguments.

[A18]

Exceptions do not undermine a general statement. I'm sorry anything that contradicts your world view is a 'straw man' in jFraud world.

[they don't love you like i love you]

I actually do not consider MacKinnon and Dworkin to be feminists all because they support limiting woemn's rights.

Feminists such as Annie Sprinkle and Betty Dodson are the only true ones, because they are in favor of maximizing women's rights, as am I.

Opebo is actually a great feminist.

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Exceptions do not undermine a general statement. I'm sorry anything that contradicts your world view is a 'straw man' in jFraud world.

Sad that you resort to using insults developed by Mr. 94%-heads-and-94%-correlations-are-always-statistically-insignificant.

[A18]

LOL. You guys can not follow points at all. He's giving you an analogy, and you're not disputing the analogy but instead saying you wouldn't be on the same side of the exceptions argument (in other words, inconsistency).

[angus]

Eureka!  so I'm watching this movie called "Joe Dirt" on TNT.  And they just played a scene wherein Joe is wandering around the west and comes upon a place called Silvertown.  While attempting to steal some food, he discovers a dog whose scrotum has frozen to the floorboards of the porch outside a farmhouse.  So this hot bimbette with Daisy Duke shorts and long blonde ponytails walks out and asks what's wrong.  Brandi is her name.  Nice thighs.  Anyway, Joe tells her his ballsac is frozen to the floor.  So she exclaims, "poor charlie.  I'll save you.  Be right back."  She disappears into the shack and comes out with a big pair of hedge clippers.

Clearly this Kromah woman was watching "Joe Dirt" when her son had problems, so she was influenced by the movie.  So, it's the "media's" fault.  Hollywood's fault.  Not hers.  I rest my case.

Okay, now I'm getting back to the movie.  Later.