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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« on: November 17, 2017, 02:21:14 PM »

I probably shouldn't say this, but I do have a VERY unpopular opinion...
Viewing child porn should not be illegal, however obviously making or distributing it should be highly illegal as it already is.

What the  is wrong with you?! If there is demand for something, people will produce more of it.

There will always be a demand for this kind of thing, as repulsive as it is.

And if you make consumption legal, demand will only go up. Legalizing consumption of underage porn would open the floodgates, perhaps not of like, pedophile child porn, but for shady foreign-produced porn of girls in their mid teens.
All I'm saying is I don't think we should be putting people in jail for simply viewing it, as long as they're not actually harming any children in their personal lives.

Marginally, one could argue that animated or written child porn shouldn't be illegal since no actual children were involved in making it, but for live action child porn there is no excuse, and you weren't even trying to discuss what the margins of child porn were.
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2017, 04:34:40 PM »

I probably shouldn't say this, but I do have a VERY unpopular opinion...
Viewing child porn should not be illegal, however obviously making or distributing it should be highly illegal as it already is.

What the  is wrong with you?! If there is demand for something, people will produce more of it.

There will always be a demand for this kind of thing, as repulsive as it is.

And if you make consumption legal, demand will only go up. Legalizing consumption of underage porn would open the floodgates, perhaps not of like, pedophile child porn, but for shady foreign-produced porn of girls in their mid teens.
All I'm saying is I don't think we should be putting people in jail for simply viewing it, as long as they're not actually harming any children in their personal lives.

Marginally, one could argue that animated or written child porn shouldn't be illegal since no actual children were involved in making it, but for live action child porn there is no excuse, and you weren't even trying to discuss what the margins of child porn were.
Obviously I don't think animated or written CP should be illegal, I should clarify, in my ideal world, it wouldn't be illegal to view CP that has already been created, however it would be extremely illegal to create or buy newly made content.  In reality though, I realize that this opinion isn't practical. 

We don't live in ideal worlds. Practicality always needs to be considered. That's why even tho animated or written child porn don't directly harm children, they still are illegal. If they were freely available, they'd encourage the production of live action child porn.
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2017, 11:26:26 PM »

If someone is to commit the crime of rape or murder, the age of the victim should not be a factor in the criminal penalty.  The penalty should be the same regardless of whether the victim was a child or an adult.
I don't see why you'd consider that to be an unpopular/bad opinion.  The death penalty is the death penalty. (My own reasons for abolishing the death penalty revolve entirely upon the difficulty of proving beyond a reasonable doubt, the inadequate defense available to many of those accused, and the inability of our society to consistently implement it even when it is an option, not because I think it a cruel punishment as many of those who oppose the death penalty think.)
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2017, 12:31:52 AM »

I think the Omphalos hypothesis is a likely possibility of our Earth’s past, though I am a theistic evolutionist.

The Omphalos hypothesis doesn't resolve the problem for Biblical literalists that the fossil record shows that if Genesis is to be taken as literal history either God allowed lies to exist in the fossil record or that on an Earth supposedly designed to be perfect, with every species fulfilling its unique role, far less than 1% of the species that ever were are still around today.  You don't even need to bring up the age of the universe to make a compelling case for the first eleven chapters of Genesis to be considered myth rather than history.
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2017, 11:01:42 PM »

I think the Omphalos hypothesis is a likely possibility of our Earth’s past, though I am a theistic evolutionist.

The Omphalos hypothesis doesn't resolve the problem for Biblical literalists that the fossil record shows that if Genesis is to be taken as literal history either God allowed lies to exist in the fossil record or that on an Earth supposedly designed to be perfect, with every species fulfilling its unique role, far less than 1% of the species that ever were are still around today.  You don't even need to bring up the age of the universe to make a compelling case for the first eleven chapters of Genesis to be considered myth rather than history.

I prefer the term 'parable' to 'myth'.

If it floats your boat to use that term instead, go ahead.  The word myth gets unfairly stigmatized, thanks to all the bowdlerized versions of myths the Victorians relegated to the realm of childhood stories.
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2017, 12:02:11 AM »

Opinion seemingly growing more unpopular every day: Israel isn’t an apartheid state
I'll grant it's not an exact analogy, but analogies never are. Still, the parallels are readily apparent, especially the primary one: a governing minority seeking to become a majority by dividing territory on terms of its own choosing, leaving the majority crowded into ghettos economically dependent upon the governing minority.
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2017, 07:43:52 AM »


It is the best of the prequels, and an argument could be made for it better than Return of the Jedi. However, there is so far no contender to The Empire Strikes Back when it comes to what Star Wars movie best is.
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2018, 09:02:55 PM »

Waving a Confederate flag is not only racist, but treasonous and anti-American.

THIS!!!!!!!!! Glad we can agree on something, Oldiesfreak! People forget that the Confederacy was a treasonous group of rebels

People also forget that the flag below was flown by a treasonous group of rebels.
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2018, 11:00:32 PM »

The only "logic" that can really be used to argue that child support is "good" policy is that it is worthwhile to prevent even an extremely minuscule amount of abortions is worth an enormous level of damage to the social fabric of individual rights and autonomy.

People should not be forced to take parental responsibility roles if they do not want to, which is a viewpoint basically any progressive should be able to agree to.

Child support is something that can suddenly and drastically ruin people lives, and is a cause of countless suicides.

If you think child support ruins lives, try raising kids without adequate funds. If men want to avoid parental responsibility, they should either be celibate or get a vasectomy.
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2018, 09:40:06 AM »

Dogchau? I started to write an even punnier response, but reading convinced me it was in poor taste.
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