2004: Bush vs. Lieberman vs. Kucinich
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  2004: Bush vs. Lieberman vs. Kucinich
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Question: Who would win?
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Bush, by larger margin than vs. Kerry
 
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Bush, by smaller margin than vs. Kerry
 
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Lieberman
 
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Kucinich, somehow
 
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« on: November 01, 2017, 11:17:00 PM »

Say Joe Lieberman won the Democratic nomination in 2004. He selects Wesley Clark as his running mate. Putting two foreign policy hawks against each other, Dennis Kucinich makes an independent bid with the support of the Green Party.

Who would win and what would the map look like?
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2017, 09:46:54 AM »

I could see Kucinich getting around 5% of the vote if not more and thus making Lieberman lose in every state Kerry won in by less than at least 5 points.
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2017, 03:36:58 PM »

This was the last election before the Internet Age really kicked into politics. Turnout would be lower but most of the left would back Lieberman, given how much of a hate figure Bush was by then. Kucinich maybe gets around Nader 2000 levels of support. Bush wins maybe 50-46 with WI flipping.
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2017, 06:21:37 PM »

Kucinich would most likely hurt the Democrat no matter what so that Democrat, including Lieberman, would do worse then Kerry.
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2017, 06:41:56 PM »



President George W. Bush/Vice President Dick Cheney: 356 Electoral Votes, 49.0%

Senator Joe Lieberman/House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt: 182 Electoral Votes, 42.1%
Representative Dennis Kucinich/Fmr. Representative Cynthia McKinney: 0 Electoral Votes, 7.6%

Massive protests surround the 2004 Democatic National Convention, and despite attempts to withhold his nomination by anti-war candidate Dennis Kucinich, they all failed, and Lieberman in response decided to choose a pro war, establishment running mate. Many anti war delegates walked out, and the convention was as violent as 1968. Kucinich announced his candidacy for President on the Green Party ticket the day after the convention, and Nader stepped down as the Green Party nominee. Fmr. Rep. McKinney decided to join the ticket, and President Bush appeared set for re-election. Kucinich nearly made the criteria for the debates, but narrowly didn't. The 2004 Election was a landslide re-election for the incumbent.
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2017, 12:12:07 AM »

What if Kucinich was the Dem and Lieberman was the Indy?
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2017, 02:27:29 AM »



President George W. Bush/Vice President Dick Cheney: 356 Electoral Votes, 49.0%

Senator Joe Lieberman/House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt: 182 Electoral Votes, 42.1%
Representative Dennis Kucinich/Fmr. Representative Cynthia McKinney: 0 Electoral Votes, 7.6%

Massive protests surround the 2004 Democatic National Convention, and despite attempts to withhold his nomination by anti-war candidate Dennis Kucinich, they all failed, and Lieberman in response decided to choose a pro war, establishment running mate. Many anti war delegates walked out, and the convention was as violent as 1968. Kucinich announced his candidacy for President on the Green Party ticket the day after the convention, and Nader stepped down as the Green Party nominee. Fmr. Rep. McKinney decided to join the ticket, and President Bush appeared set for re-election. Kucinich nearly made the criteria for the debates, but narrowly didn't. The 2004 Election was a landslide re-election for the incumbent.



I think NJ and ME go for Bush too in this scenario
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2017, 09:10:23 AM »


377: George W. Bush/Christine Todd Whitman* - 47.4%
161: Joseph Lieberman/Bill Richardson - 40.4%
Dennis Kucinich/Peter Camejo(Green/Reform) - 8.8%
Others - 3.2%


*Cheney promised position of Chief of Staff; Rice appointed SoS, Powell appointed SoD, Rumsfeld appointed CIA Director in “The Cabinet of Rivals”
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