VA-GOV 2017: It's a Wave (GE: Nov 7th - Thread #2)

[Skill and Chance]

Fairfax lost VA Beach.  Other than that, the county maps for the 3 statewide Dems were exactly the same, which is wild!

[Holmes]

Yes, I don't think Republicans will ever feel the dread most Americans felt on election night 2016. It was the worst feeling I'd ever felt.

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^^^ This is what should REALLY scare the GOP ^^^

I mean, I can do without the memes, but I'd appreciate some socialism.

(Thankfully, the new HoD Democrats provide plenty of it.)

Well, a DSA member, Lee Carter defeated an incumbent Republican in the HoD.

[heatcharger]

Lee Carter will transform into a sane moderate in less than two years. I'm already calling it.

[Holmes]

Lee Carter will transform into a sane moderate in less than two years. I'm already calling it.

Probably not?

[heatcharger]

Lee Carter will transform into a sane moderate in less than two years. I'm already calling it.

Probably not?

Trust me, he will not be a left-wing hellraiser once he's actually in office.

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Lee Carter will transform into a sane moderate in less than two years. I'm already calling it.

Probably not?

Trust me, he will not be a left-wing hellraiser once he's actually in office.

You seem to think that left-wing means that you would always be throwing bombs in office.

[heatcharger]

Nobody cares jfern, nobody cares. Just be thankful that Big Ralph Northam's mega coattails carried all these guys over the hump.

[Adam Griffin]

Here's your tentative swing map compared to 2013:

[Skill and Chance]

Here's your tentative swing map compared to 2013:

So basically what the Clinton campaign was hoping for (counting on?) in 2016.

[Pyro]

Lee Carter will transform into a sane moderate in less than two years. I'm already calling it.

Probably not?

Trust me, he will not be a left-wing hellraiser once he's actually in office.

It's unprecedented. There's literally no way to know.

[Alex20]

Yes, I don't think Republicans will ever feel the dread most Americans felt on election night 2016. It was the worst feeling I'd ever felt.

The vast majority of Americans continued with their lives without caring who was president. The last season of Américan horror story reflects your feeling

[Gass3268]

I want to thank Latino Victory for helping get Democrats out to the polls. They helped show us what Virginia would have looked like with Enron Ed as governor.

[Holmes]

Yes, I don't think Republicans will ever feel the dread most Americans felt on election night 2016. It was the worst feeling I'd ever felt.

The vast majority of Americans continued with their lives without caring who was president. The last season of Américan horror story reflects your feeling

Everyone continued with their lives afterwards. And?

[MAINEiac4434]

DAVID WASSERMAN 11:33 PM
One final note: It’s hard not to conclude the August events in Charlottesville had a galvanizing effect on Democrats in that area. Across the state, raw votes cast were up 16 percent over 2013. But in the city of Charlottesville, raw votes cast were up 31 percent. Northam took 84 percent of the vote there.

[IceSpear]

Here's your tentative swing map compared to 2013:

Lol at SW VA. RIP Manchin.

[MAINEiac4434]

I think it just goes to show how terrible the governors in this country are that Phil Murphy and Ralph Northam are already in the top 10.

[Frodo]

Berniecrat Lee Carter defeated the Virginia House Republican Whip.

Oh right, Berniecrats can't win in Virginia.

Eternally bitter, lmao

I can somewhat understand his disappointment.  Just think, a moderate Democrat like Ralph Northam not only handily beats Tom Perriello (the Bernie candidate) for the nomination, but goes on to defeat Ed Gillespie by about 9 points in the general election.  Not only that, his victory carries the other statewide Democrats to the finish line, and might even win the House of Delegates (in Republican control for nearly twenty years) as well.

If you are a Bernie Bro hardliner like him who was counting on Northam either losing outright or barely winning to bolster his campaign of reshaping the Democratic Party in Bernie Sanders' image, it must be a bitter night indeed.  

[Pericles]

Here's your tentative swing map compared to 2013:

Lol at SW VA. RIP Manchin.

Thanks for pissing on the victory parade. Your point isn't even valid.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

I don't believe I'm trying to spin anything? All I said was (in reference to a previous post) that Republicans have won nearly all the previous special elections since Trump took office and that the Virginia governorship is not a gain for the Democrats.

All true, of course, and relevant if the most interesting question coming out of this year's elections is "who has more power in America today" — but I don't think it is. Most non-delusional observers were aware from the start that very few of these contests were likely to result in seats changing hands; it shouldn't surprise anyone that Republicans are winning in Kansas and Utah. With the notable exceptions of GA-6 and tonight's elections in Virginia, there's nothing particularly earthshaking or unexpected in the outcomes of these contests — in almost every case, the party that everyone expected to win won — and if you view politics as a kind of spectator sport, that's all that matters. But if you're going to use these elections as a measure of shifts in public opinion (which I would argue is both more interesting and more useful), then what matters is not the outcomes but the margins — and there the Democrats, who have consistently improved upon their most recent performances in the relevant constituencies, in some instances (as tonight in VA) markedly, are the clear winners. In the same sense that the UK elections were widely received as an embarrassment for Theresa May, despite her party coming in first, these results do not bode well for the GOP, who are currently bleeding significantly at the polls. Time will tell just how significant their losses are, and whether they will translate to actual gains for the Democrats in 2018.

[Crumpets]

DAVID WASSERMAN 11:33 PM
One final note: It’s hard not to conclude the August events in Charlottesville had a galvanizing effect on Democrats in that area. Across the state, raw votes cast were up 16 percent over 2013. But in the city of Charlottesville, raw votes cast were up 31 percent. Northam took 84 percent of the vote there.

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a car is millions of good guys with a ballot.

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Berniecrat Lee Carter defeated the Virginia House Republican Whip.

Oh right, Berniecrats can't win in Virginia.

Eternally bitter, lmao

I can somewhat understand his disappointment.  Just think, a moderate Democrat like Ralph Northam not only handily beats Tom Perriello (the Bernie candidate) for the nomination, but goes on to defeat Ed Gillespie by about 9 points in the general election.  Not only that, but his victory carries the other statewide Democrats to the finish line, but might even win the House of Delegates (in Republican control for nearly twenty years) as well.

If you are a Bernie Bro hardliner like him who was counting on Northam either losing outright or barely winning to bolster his campaign of reshaping the Democratic Party in Bernie Sanders' image, it must be a bitter night indeed.  

You act as if Trump won Virginia and the Democrats just picked up the governorship. Virginia hasn't voted for a Republican governor under a Republican President since 1973. And that Berniecrat won with zero help from the party. And sad that you use the "Bernie Bro" insult to take down progressives.

[IceSpear]

Here's your tentative swing map compared to 2013:

Lol at SW VA. RIP Manchin.

Thanks for pissing on the victory parade. Your point isn't even valid.

What do you mean? I was celebrating the loss of Racist VA Hicks earlier. Unfortunately, in WV unlike in VA, they are a majority.

[heatcharger]

Here's your tentative swing map compared to 2013:

Remember when Northam skipping the Buena Vista parade was gonna be big deal? Lol, SW VA doesn't matter.

[Holmes]

How many Democrats won tonight without the help of the party? This kind of reminds me of when most NDP candidates in Quebec fell ass backwards into a win in 2011 despite having no profile whatsoever.