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Question: Who do you think is the most likely Republican nominee in 2024?
#1
Mike Pence
 
#2
Marco Rubio
 
#3
Ted Cruz
 
#4
Scott Walker
 
#5
Tom Cotton
 
#6
Ben Sasse
 
#7
Nikki Haley
 
#8
Paul Ryan
 
#9
Someone else currently in Congress/statewide elected position
 
#10
Someone else
 
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Total Voters: 122

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RINO Tom
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E: 2.45, S: -0.52

« on: November 06, 2017, 05:23:55 PM »

It's really impossible to guess at this point ... I'm going to guess a 2020 re-election loss for President Trump leads to a Haley nomination, but who knows?
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RINO Tom
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E: 2.45, S: -0.52

« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2017, 11:27:02 AM »

Why are Richard Spencer and Roy Moore not on here? Whether the Atlas RINO's are in denial about it or not, that is the future of their party Smiley
We haven't got to a point where the GOP base is insane enough to nominate someone that extreme for President... yet.

Haha they nominated Donald Trump last year but people are still in denial about their base being drawn to the most retarded person running in the primary

For all of your insinuations about how uncivilized, intolerant and generally classless Republicans are, you use this word in a degrading manner an awful lot.  Anyway, even though I know you are being somewhat hyperbolic to be funny and/or make a point, there is a clear difference between those two and President Trump.  Trump was able to appeal to several different types of Republicans.  Many people liked him for many different reasons, and his status as a "straight talk" celebrity was incredibly effective.  Richard Spencer is not overly interesting unless you are a White supremacist, and - as bad as you might think the GOP base is - most Republicans are not open White supremacists, whatever their prejudices might be.  A racist Republican would much rather vote for a "dog whistle" candidate (as liberals assert things like cutting welfare or being tough on crime are ... I think those are dubious, politically motivated claims, but that is besides the point) than someone who openly espouses intolerance proudly.  Trump does this, but I do not believe that is his PRIMARY appeal to Republicans (at least not during the primary season, which is the topic of discussion here).  Roy Moore is having trouble in Alabama, so the odds he can convince Republicans in Iowa and New Hampshire that he should be President when there will be other candidates with just as ridiculous views as he who aren't accused of being pedophiles are pretty small.  Additionally, even if 2016 fundamentally changed the coalitions needed to win the Presidency and redefined "what it means to be a Democrat/Republican," it's a simple matter of mathematics that the electorate that got Romney nominated was not THAT fundamentally different than the one that got Trump elected.  That is FAR from a defense of Republican primary voters (let alone a compliment of them), but people are acting like 2012 Republicans were just a fundamentally different group than 2016 Republicans, and that's ridiculous.  You could argue that Republican primary voters "showed their true colors" in 2016, but all that means is that they are intolerant, terrible people at their core (in your eyes), not that they will only vote for openly intolerant candidates (as evidenced by their election of Romney four years earlier).

I predict that Trump is going to lose very badly in 2020, and the 2018/2020 midterms will serve as a real wakeup call to Republicans.  I don't think that wakeup call will usher in this idealistic "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" party many allege that I yearn for, but I DO think it will result in a less xenophobic, less folksy GOP in favor of a "classier populism" - a party that will be more restrained than the Democrats and not reckless with your money/traditions, but certainly looking out for "people like you."  I doubt this happens in 2018 in time to stave off defeats across the board, and I suspect Trump runs again in 2020 ... but 2024 is several years away.  We'll see, though! Smiley
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2017, 01:52:28 PM »

If I had to guess, Haley or Greitens, but a lot will change between now and then
I'm not sure the same GOP electorate that nominated Trump is going to nominate Nikki Haley.

And I wasn't sure that the same GOP electorate that nominated Romney would nominate Trump.

Yes, they were mostly the same.
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RINO Tom
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E: 2.45, S: -0.52

« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2017, 06:34:22 PM »

If I had to guess, Haley or Greitens, but a lot will change between now and then
I'm not sure the same GOP electorate that nominated Trump is going to nominate Nikki Haley.

And I wasn't sure that the same GOP electorate that nominated Romney would nominate Trump.

Yes, they were mostly the same.
I'm not saying they weren't the same, I'm saying these people are, perhaps, evolving.

Fair enough, we will have to wait and see.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2018, 11:31:22 AM »


LOL.  It was a perfectly reasonable guess, but it's still hilarious that it was Reaganfan's one-word post.
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