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« on: August 29, 2005, 05:12:20 PM »

From the San Francisco Examiner's PJ Corkery:

Forget Robin Williams, forget Rob Reiner … the superstar that big money Los Angeles Democrats want to run for governor of California is … Bill Clinton. Yep. Some of the Southland's deepest Democratic pockets are busily trying to persuade — some would say "hire" — Clinton to move to the Golden State and take on Schwarzenegger. They figure that Bubba can beat the faltering Terminator here in 2006 in a New York minute.
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2005, 06:12:52 PM »

Who will have more sex scandals?
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2005, 06:18:56 PM »

California gets weirder and weirder.

I was just going to make a comment on the Clintons becoming total carpetbaggers, seeing as it doesn't matter where these Arkansans move to, but then I realized where Arnie comes from.......
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2005, 06:20:44 PM »

My own personal view is that Schwarzenegger is a one term wonder.

He won on his name recognition and his celebrity status, and on people's disgust with Davis, and on the lack of credible opposition to his candidacy.

A credible Democrat would terminate Arnold in the next race for Governor.

Bill Clinton and Arnold Schwarzenegger should get along well, however, given their similar disgusting backgrounds and behavior.

Bill Clinton might be seen as a carpetbagger by some, but it worked for Hillary in New York.

I highly doubt, however, that Bill Clinton would ever be running for Guv of the Golden State, or any other state for that matter.
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2005, 06:21:22 PM »

Well, by that logic, almost everyone is a carpetbagger. Who lives in the same place all their life?

I tend to think of a carpetbagger politician as someone who moves purely to run for office somewhere (Hillary, Keyes, etc.).
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2005, 06:26:33 PM »

I don't think Bill wants to run for office again.  I don't see why he would.

That said, if he runs, he wins.
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2005, 07:04:40 PM »

cool, but doesn't he want to be UN Secretary General?
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2005, 07:05:47 PM »

cool, but doesn't he want to be UN Secretary General?

That's what I thought.  That's probably why he was supporting Kerry.  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2005, 07:09:17 PM »

What is this?  Does somebody just yell CHANGE PLACES and every single politician in the country moves?
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2005, 10:42:53 PM »

My own personal view is that Schwarzenegger is a one term wonder.

He won on his name recognition and his celebrity status, and on people's disgust with Davis, and on the lack of credible opposition to his candidacy.

A credible Democrat would terminate Arnold in the next race for Governor.

Bill Clinton and Arnold Schwarzenegger should get along well, however, given their similar disgusting backgrounds and behavior.

Bill Clinton might be seen as a carpetbagger by some, but it worked for Hillary in New York.

I highly doubt, however, that Bill Clinton would ever be running for Guv of the Golden State, or any other state for that matter.

I don't quite understand your anti-Arnold attitude.  A simple examination of the record shows him to be the most successful Governor in America, which is why the Wall Street Journal in its survey of Governors economic policies ranked Arnold #1 in America.
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2005, 11:05:57 PM »

If this is true, Arnold is TOAST.
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2005, 08:00:33 AM »
« Edited: August 30, 2005, 09:47:28 AM by nickshepDEM »


I don't quite understand your anti-Arnold attitude.  A simple examination of the record shows him to be the most successful Governor in America, which is why the Wall Street Journal in its survey of Governors economic policies ranked Arnold #1 in America.

That survery if I recall correctly was based soley on which Governors cut taxes and which didnt.  Virginia was rated the best managed state in the nation by The Governor Magizine, but Governor Warner received only a C rating from the WSJ.  Id also like to hear your arguement as to how Arnold is the most successful Governor in the country.
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2005, 10:19:11 AM »

The Clintons have a very succesful carpetbagging history so far... may as well continue that trend
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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2005, 11:18:39 AM »

It would just kill any Republican movement in CA.
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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2005, 07:30:41 PM »

I'm not sure a carpetbagger could win, but it's certainly worked before, and Clinton is a big enough joke to run too.
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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2005, 09:17:23 PM »


I don't quite understand your anti-Arnold attitude.  A simple examination of the record shows him to be the most successful Governor in America, which is why the Wall Street Journal in its survey of Governors economic policies ranked Arnold #1 in America.

That survery if I recall correctly was based soley on which Governors cut taxes and which didnt.  Virginia was rated the best managed state in the nation by The Governor Magizine, but Governor Warner received only a C rating from the WSJ.  Id also like to hear your arguement as to how Arnold is the most successful Governor in the country.

Arnold took a $22 billion deficit, the largest in the history of state government in any state, and has balanced the budget completely in just two years.  He's cut the unemployment rate here from 7% to 5% in the same time frame.  He's cut taxes.  He's boosted education spending to an all time high.

That's why I say he's the most succesful Governor in America.
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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2005, 09:22:29 PM »

He did all that and his approve rating is in the low 40s? How did that happen?
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« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2005, 09:27:36 PM »

He did all that and his approve rating is in the low 40s? How did that happen?

Its typical for Governors here to have low ratings a year out from re-election.

In 1994, everybody though Pete Wilson was done, that Kathleen Brown was a shoo-in for Governor.  Didn't turn out that way.  Pete latched onto immigration reform and won re-election.

In 2002, everybody though Davis was done.  Then he sabotaged Riordan's campaign and beat Bill Simon.  Pat Brown in 1962 had low ratings, that's why Nixon thought it was a good idea to run for Governor.

Davis, Wilson, and Brown all had ratings in the low 30s at this point.  That Arnold is at 40% or so during the cyclical low point in a Governor's poll numbers while special interest groups are spending millions on TV and radio ads lying about Arnold's special election initiaves (mostly public employee unions against having the state government employee pension system privatized) is a testament to his strength.
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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2005, 09:47:56 PM »

If Bill Clinton challenges Arnold Schwarzenegger for Californian governor, it will officially become the weirdest race I've ever lived through.
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« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2005, 09:56:41 PM »

If Bill Clinton challenges Arnold Schwarzenegger for Californian governor, it will officially become the weirdest race I've ever lived through.

A better word would be 'most unlikely'
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« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2005, 05:04:17 PM »

He did all that and his approve rating is in the low 40s? How did that happen?

Its typical for Governors here to have low ratings a year out from re-election.

In 1994, everybody though Pete Wilson was done, that Kathleen Brown was a shoo-in for Governor. Didn't turn out that way. Pete latched onto immigration reform and won re-election.

In 2002, everybody though Davis was done. Then he sabotaged Riordan's campaign and beat Bill Simon. Pat Brown in 1962 had low ratings, that's why Nixon thought it was a good idea to run for Governor.

Davis, Wilson, and Brown all had ratings in the low 30s at this point. That Arnold is at 40% or so during the cyclical low point in a Governor's poll numbers while special interest groups are spending millions on TV and radio ads lying about Arnold's special election initiaves (mostly public employee unions against having the state government employee pension system privatized) is a testament to his strength.

So what do you think his chances are at re-election?
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« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2005, 05:34:24 PM »
« Edited: August 31, 2005, 05:39:56 PM by nickshepDEM »


Arnold took a $22 billion deficit, the largest in the history of state government in any state, and has balanced the budget completely in just two years.  He's cut the unemployment rate here from 7% to 5% in the same time frame.  He's cut taxes.  He's boosted education spending to an all time high.

That's why I say he's the most succesful Governor in America.

Didnt he 'fix' the defecit simply by borrowing the money, which will cost the state more in the long run?

I know he cut the car tax, but what else?

Arent college tuition and book prices at an all time high?

By the way, what are your thoughts on Proposition 13?
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« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2005, 05:39:10 PM »

I'm quite sure he didn't create any jobs. If he did, I'm sure they suck. Most government jobs do.
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« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2005, 05:39:38 PM »


Your right I read that wrong.
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« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2005, 05:41:16 PM »

If Democrats want Clinton, that means they realize how unlikely it is they will beat Arnold. Crazy fern thinks he personally could beat him, but the reality is that California has a number of problems not of Arnold's doing.

The CA legislature has very low approval ratings I would imagine... but I don't see anyone predicting a GOP takeover there.
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