Ralph Northam 2020?

[Confused Democrat]

Tonight proved that Bernie bros have it wrong, and that the center-left is where the majority of the country is at.

It’s been crystal clear given Northam’s win over Periello and landslide over Gillespie that moderate Third Wayism wins out over far left Bernie-ism.

Berniecrats have NOTHING to show for themselves but moral victories. You can’t live off daddy’s credit card forever little kids.

LOL whatever the corporatist Clintonian shills need to tell themselves in order to sleep at night. Northam should have won this race by at least double digits with Trump in the White House, but he failed to do even that much! Perriello was obviously the best choice but the Virginia Democratic establishment rigged it against him.

If anything, Democratic Socialist Lee Carter's win over GOP Del. Jackson Miller in Manassas shows that Berniecrats are right on the direction the Democratic Party needs to head in.

7/7 in Somerville, Mass. 3/4 in Virginia. DSA Lee carter defeating GOP Whip. Andre Jenkins becoming the 1st transgender woman in MN & so on. And ofcourse Larry Krasner is the DA now.

This has to be one of the best results downballot for Berniecrats & a fantastic day. Nothing to be unhappy about. Northam was fighting on a 15$ Min Wage & was forced to move left on many issues. Besides Virginia is a safe D state where any Democrat will win.

Berniecrats should really be happy with today's performance.

RALPH NORTHAM REKT TOM PERIELLO WHO WAS THE BERNIECRAT AND LANDSLIDED THE GOP YOU FOOL

THAT'S BECAUSE IT WAS RIGGED LIKE EVERY OTHER DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY!

THE ONLY THING THAT HAS BEEN RIGGED WAS THE GENERAL ELECTION LAST YEAR BY RHSSIA

Lol that's just an excuse that corporate Democrat shills use to justify Shillary Clinton's loss against Donald Trump. Just admit that Hillary Clinton was a bad candidate, and that she lost fair and square!

If Hillary had a message for the white working class and actually paid attention to the Midwest, maybe we wouldn't have Donald Trump as our President!

Maybe if Bernie wasn’t toxic to black voters and scammed college students into donating their life savings he could’ve been the nominee and lose by 10 points in the GE

Bernie may have been murdered by African American voters in the Southern Primaries, but it's not like those states would have mattered in the general election anyways.

The states that actually mattered where the ones in the Midwest, and Bernie would have won those states easily.

[Frodo]

I like Ralph Northam - he has a storied past of being a very genuine and honorable person - but I feel like, in terms of political goals, I would like a more left-wing Democratic nominee.

If he's a decent Governor, he would be a good running mate for someone like Kamala Harris.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Like I said in that other thread, he strikes me more as vice-presidential material.  

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Ralph is undoubtedly the best candidate for 2020. He generated so much strong down ballot coattails, he would help the Democrats take the house and the senate and the fact that he won Virginia beach shows he can win cross over votes, so he can probably win Kentucky and Indiana. He is the only one who can heal this nation!!1!!

Governor Ralph Northam/Governor Phil Murphy vs Donald Drumpf/ Mike Pence

Northam also likely wins AL, as voters there will soon desert the GOP forever because Roy Moore. I'd put NE (Omaha), ND (Standing Rock), and ID (nice Mormons) in the Dem column as well. KS & UT are tough calls, but Northam will easily win the latter if he can get United Utah's endorsement.

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I like Ralph Northam - he has a storied past of being a very genuine and honorable person - but I feel like, in terms of political goals, I would like a more left-wing Democratic nominee.

If he's a decent Governor, he would be a good running mate for someone like Kamala Harris.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Like I said in that other thread, he strikes me more as vice-presidential material.  

*vomits*

[AtorBoltox]

Can't we just agree that a candidate like Northam is good for Virginia but a Berniecrat might be better for other states?

[tosk]

solid vp choice

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

Tonight proved that Bernie bros have it wrong, and that the center-left is where the majority of the country is at.

It’s been crystal clear given Northam’s win over Periello and landslide over Gillespie that moderate Third Wayism wins out over far left Bernie-ism.

Berniecrats have NOTHING to show for themselves but moral victories. You can’t live off daddy’s credit card forever little kids.

LOL whatever the corporatist Clintonian shills need to tell themselves in order to sleep at night. Northam should have won this race by at least double digits with Trump in the White House, but he failed to do even that much! Perriello was obviously the best choice but the Virginia Democratic establishment rigged it against him.

If anything, Democratic Socialist Lee Carter's win over GOP Del. Jackson Miller in Manassas shows that Berniecrats are right on the direction the Democratic Party needs to head in.

7/7 in Somerville, Mass. 3/4 in Virginia. DSA Lee carter defeating GOP Whip. Andre Jenkins becoming the 1st transgender woman in MN & so on. And ofcourse Larry Krasner is the DA now.

This has to be one of the best results downballot for Berniecrats & a fantastic day. Nothing to be unhappy about. Northam was fighting on a 15$ Min Wage & was forced to move left on many issues. Besides Virginia is a safe D state where any Democrat will win.

Berniecrats should really be happy with today's performance.

RALPH NORTHAM REKT TOM PERIELLO WHO WAS THE BERNIECRAT AND LANDSLIDED THE GOP YOU FOOL

THAT'S BECAUSE IT WAS RIGGED LIKE EVERY OTHER DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY!

Seriously?

e: also to answer the original question I think it's too early to tell but I'm 90% certain that Northam would be less interesting to a national audience than Tim Kaine. He won in a state that was pretty friendly to Democrats generally (Periello would also have won this race somewhat comfortably) and benefitted from some local appeal in an area that was rife with potential swing voters (Hampton Roads suburbs/exurbs) but I think in a national race that appeal would be minimized as he moved his style towards the average National Democratic candidate.

[Maxwell]

obama endorsed perriello, how could it be any less rigged?

[Rookie Yinzer]

If we want a Southern white male Governor for VP I prefer Roy Cooper.

[Frodo]

If we want a Southern white male Governor for VP I prefer Roy Cooper.

Why him, and not Ralph Northam (or John Bel Edwards, for that matter)? 

[Rookie Yinzer]

If we want a Southern white male Governor for VP I prefer Roy Cooper.

Why him, and not Ralph Northam (or John Bel Edwards, for that matter)? 

Ralph Northam doesn’t bring anything with him. The Democrat will win Virginia off anti-Trump sentiment alone. I suspect if the VP picks being fielded are Southern White male moderates that the Presidential nominee is more than likely a woman and more than likely Harris. Harris/Cooper can contest NC and FL. Roy Cooper is probably needed more on the Gubernatorial ticket anyway so it won’t happen.

[Sir Mohamed]

He would make a decent running mate for Kamala Harris.

[publicunofficial]

A Ralph Northam/Hilda Solis, Hakeem Jeffries, or Susan Rice ticket sounds pretty good to me.

Damning praise.

[GoTfan]

I like Ralph Northam - he has a storied past of being a very genuine and honorable person - but I feel like, in terms of political goals, I would like a more left-wing Democratic nominee.

Do you ever take into account electability? Like ever? Some radical left-wing nut job won’t win the GE for you.

Please. It was not a left-winger who lost to Trump.

[publicunofficial]

I like Ralph Northam - he has a storied past of being a very genuine and honorable person - but I feel like, in terms of political goals, I would like a more left-wing Democratic nominee.

Do you ever take into account electability? Like ever? Some radical left-wing nut job won’t win the GE for you.

Neither will a bland uninspiring career politician.

[Shadows]

Apparently Northam lost counties overall (According to Beet) & won because of racking up margins in NOVA & urban counties. He may at best swing only 1 Congressional seat.

This is not good. Looks like another PV vote winner & EC loser !

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I like Ralph Northam - he has a storied past of being a very genuine and honorable person - but I feel like, in terms of political goals, I would like a more left-wing Democratic nominee.

Do you ever take into account electability? Like ever? Some radical left-wing nut job won’t win the GE for you.

Do you mean like running a DSA member against the incumbent Virginia House Majority Whip?

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

I like Ralph Northam - he has a storied past of being a very genuine and honorable person - but I feel like, in terms of political goals, I would like a more left-wing Democratic nominee.

Do you ever take into account electability? Like ever? Some radical left-wing nut job won’t win the GE for you.

Do you mean like running a DSA member against the incumbent Virginia House Majority Whip?

Who got carried by Northam's coattails?

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

I like Ralph Northam - he has a storied past of being a very genuine and honorable person - but I feel like, in terms of political goals, I would like a more left-wing Democratic nominee.

Do you ever take into account electability? Like ever? Some radical left-wing nut job won’t win the GE for you.

Do you mean like running a DSA member against the incumbent Virginia House Majority Whip?

Who got carried by Northam's coattails?

But when progressives lost last year, it was never because of Hillary's coattails? Anyways, there were other progressive victories just now outside of Virginia.

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

Tonight proved that Bernie bros have it wrong, and that the center-left is where the majority of the country is at.

It’s been crystal clear given Northam’s win over Periello and landslide over Gillespie that moderate Third Wayism wins out over far left Bernie-ism.

Berniecrats have NOTHING to show for themselves but moral victories. You can’t live off daddy’s credit card forever little kids.

LOL whatever the corporatist Clintonian shills need to tell themselves in order to sleep at night. Northam should have won this race by at least double digits with Trump in the White House, but he failed to do even that much! Perriello was obviously the best choice but the Virginia Democratic establishment rigged it against him.

If anything, Democratic Socialist Lee Carter's win over GOP Del. Jackson Miller in Manassas shows that Berniecrats are right on the direction the Democratic Party needs to head in.

7/7 in Somerville, Mass. 3/4 in Virginia. DSA Lee carter defeating GOP Whip. Andre Jenkins becoming the 1st transgender woman in MN & so on. And ofcourse Larry Krasner is the DA now.

This has to be one of the best results downballot for Berniecrats & a fantastic day. Nothing to be unhappy about. Northam was fighting on a 15$ Min Wage & was forced to move left on many issues. Besides Virginia is a safe D state where any Democrat will win.

Berniecrats should really be happy with today's performance.

RALPH NORTHAM REKT TOM PERIELLO WHO WAS THE BERNIECRAT AND LANDSLIDED THE GOP YOU FOOL

THAT'S BECAUSE IT WAS RIGGED LIKE EVERY OTHER DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY!

THE ONLY THING THAT HAS BEEN RIGGED WAS THE GENERAL ELECTION LAST YEAR BY RHSSIA

Lol that's just an excuse that corporate Democrat shills use to justify Shillary Clinton's loss against Donald Trump. Just admit that Hillary Clinton was a bad candidate, and that she lost fair and square!

If Hillary had a message for the white working class and actually paid attention to the Midwest, maybe we wouldn't have Donald Trump as our President!

Maybe if Bernie wasn’t toxic to black voters and scammed college students into donating their life savings he could’ve been the nominee and lose by 10 points in the GE

Bernie may have been murdered by African American voters in the Southern Primaries, but it's not like those states would have mattered in the general election anyways.

The states that actually mattered where the ones in the Midwest, and Bernie would have won those states easily.

Swing states in the midwest
IA: Clinton win
MN: Sanders win
WI: Sanders win
MI: Sanders win
OH: Clinton win
PA: Clinton win

Clinton swept pretty much every swing state elsewhere.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Tonight proved that Bernie bros have it wrong, and that the center-left is where the majority of the country is at.

It’s been crystal clear given Northam’s win over Periello and landslide over Gillespie that moderate Third Wayism wins out over far left Bernie-ism.

Berniecrats have NOTHING to show for themselves but moral victories. You can’t live off daddy’s credit card forever little kids.

LOL whatever the corporatist Clintonian shills need to tell themselves in order to sleep at night. Northam should have won this race by at least double digits with Trump in the White House, but he failed to do even that much! Perriello was obviously the best choice but the Virginia Democratic establishment rigged it against him.

If anything, Democratic Socialist Lee Carter's win over GOP Del. Jackson Miller in Manassas shows that Berniecrats are right on the direction the Democratic Party needs to head in.

7/7 in Somerville, Mass. 3/4 in Virginia. DSA Lee carter defeating GOP Whip. Andre Jenkins becoming the 1st transgender woman in MN & so on. And ofcourse Larry Krasner is the DA now.

This has to be one of the best results downballot for Berniecrats & a fantastic day. Nothing to be unhappy about. Northam was fighting on a 15$ Min Wage & was forced to move left on many issues. Besides Virginia is a safe D state where any Democrat will win.

Berniecrats should really be happy with today's performance.

RALPH NORTHAM REKT TOM PERIELLO WHO WAS THE BERNIECRAT AND LANDSLIDED THE GOP YOU FOOL

THAT'S BECAUSE IT WAS RIGGED LIKE EVERY OTHER DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY!

THE ONLY THING THAT HAS BEEN RIGGED WAS THE GENERAL ELECTION LAST YEAR BY RHSSIA

Lol that's just an excuse that corporate Democrat shills use to justify Shillary Clinton's loss against Donald Trump. Just admit that Hillary Clinton was a bad candidate, and that she lost fair and square!

If Hillary had a message for the white working class and actually paid attention to the Midwest, maybe we wouldn't have Donald Trump as our President!

Maybe if Bernie wasn’t toxic to black voters and scammed college students into donating their life savings he could’ve been the nominee and lose by 10 points in the GE

Bernie may have been murdered by African American voters in the Southern Primaries, but it's not like those states would have mattered in the general election anyways.

The states that actually mattered where the ones in the Midwest, and Bernie would have won those states easily.

Swing states in the midwest
IA: Clinton win
MN: Sanders win
WI: Sanders win
MI: Sanders win
OH: Clinton win
PA: Clinton win

Clinton swept pretty much every swing state elsewhere.

IA was before he had the momentum from almost winning IA. PA was closed. And I'm sure he would have done better in even states that he didn't win in the primary like I doubt Hillary would have done as well in Indiana in 2008 as Obama despite winning it in the primary.

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

Tonight proved that Bernie bros have it wrong, and that the center-left is where the majority of the country is at.

It’s been crystal clear given Northam’s win over Periello and landslide over Gillespie that moderate Third Wayism wins out over far left Bernie-ism.

Berniecrats have NOTHING to show for themselves but moral victories. You can’t live off daddy’s credit card forever little kids.

LOL whatever the corporatist Clintonian shills need to tell themselves in order to sleep at night. Northam should have won this race by at least double digits with Trump in the White House, but he failed to do even that much! Perriello was obviously the best choice but the Virginia Democratic establishment rigged it against him.

If anything, Democratic Socialist Lee Carter's win over GOP Del. Jackson Miller in Manassas shows that Berniecrats are right on the direction the Democratic Party needs to head in.

7/7 in Somerville, Mass. 3/4 in Virginia. DSA Lee carter defeating GOP Whip. Andre Jenkins becoming the 1st transgender woman in MN & so on. And ofcourse Larry Krasner is the DA now.

This has to be one of the best results downballot for Berniecrats & a fantastic day. Nothing to be unhappy about. Northam was fighting on a 15$ Min Wage & was forced to move left on many issues. Besides Virginia is a safe D state where any Democrat will win.

Berniecrats should really be happy with today's performance.

RALPH NORTHAM REKT TOM PERIELLO WHO WAS THE BERNIECRAT AND LANDSLIDED THE GOP YOU FOOL

THAT'S BECAUSE IT WAS RIGGED LIKE EVERY OTHER DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY!

THE ONLY THING THAT HAS BEEN RIGGED WAS THE GENERAL ELECTION LAST YEAR BY RHSSIA

Lol that's just an excuse that corporate Democrat shills use to justify Shillary Clinton's loss against Donald Trump. Just admit that Hillary Clinton was a bad candidate, and that she lost fair and square!

If Hillary had a message for the white working class and actually paid attention to the Midwest, maybe we wouldn't have Donald Trump as our President!

Maybe if Bernie wasn’t toxic to black voters and scammed college students into donating their life savings he could’ve been the nominee and lose by 10 points in the GE

Bernie may have been murdered by African American voters in the Southern Primaries, but it's not like those states would have mattered in the general election anyways.

The states that actually mattered where the ones in the Midwest, and Bernie would have won those states easily.

Swing states in the midwest
IA: Clinton win
MN: Sanders win
WI: Sanders win
MI: Sanders win
OH: Clinton win
PA: Clinton win

Clinton swept pretty much every swing state elsewhere.

IA was before he had the momentum from almost winning IA. PA was closed. And I'm sure he would have done better in even states that he didn't win in the primary like I doubt Hillary would have done as well in Indiana in 2008 as Obama despite winning it in the primary.

If PA being closed excuses a double digit loss, then WI and MN weren't really sanders wins because they were caucuses.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Tonight proved that Bernie bros have it wrong, and that the center-left is where the majority of the country is at.

It’s been crystal clear given Northam’s win over Periello and landslide over Gillespie that moderate Third Wayism wins out over far left Bernie-ism.

Berniecrats have NOTHING to show for themselves but moral victories. You can’t live off daddy’s credit card forever little kids.

LOL whatever the corporatist Clintonian shills need to tell themselves in order to sleep at night. Northam should have won this race by at least double digits with Trump in the White House, but he failed to do even that much! Perriello was obviously the best choice but the Virginia Democratic establishment rigged it against him.

If anything, Democratic Socialist Lee Carter's win over GOP Del. Jackson Miller in Manassas shows that Berniecrats are right on the direction the Democratic Party needs to head in.

7/7 in Somerville, Mass. 3/4 in Virginia. DSA Lee carter defeating GOP Whip. Andre Jenkins becoming the 1st transgender woman in MN & so on. And ofcourse Larry Krasner is the DA now.

This has to be one of the best results downballot for Berniecrats & a fantastic day. Nothing to be unhappy about. Northam was fighting on a 15$ Min Wage & was forced to move left on many issues. Besides Virginia is a safe D state where any Democrat will win.

Berniecrats should really be happy with today's performance.

RALPH NORTHAM REKT TOM PERIELLO WHO WAS THE BERNIECRAT AND LANDSLIDED THE GOP YOU FOOL

THAT'S BECAUSE IT WAS RIGGED LIKE EVERY OTHER DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY!

THE ONLY THING THAT HAS BEEN RIGGED WAS THE GENERAL ELECTION LAST YEAR BY RHSSIA

Lol that's just an excuse that corporate Democrat shills use to justify Shillary Clinton's loss against Donald Trump. Just admit that Hillary Clinton was a bad candidate, and that she lost fair and square!

If Hillary had a message for the white working class and actually paid attention to the Midwest, maybe we wouldn't have Donald Trump as our President!

Maybe if Bernie wasn’t toxic to black voters and scammed college students into donating their life savings he could’ve been the nominee and lose by 10 points in the GE

Bernie may have been murdered by African American voters in the Southern Primaries, but it's not like those states would have mattered in the general election anyways.

The states that actually mattered where the ones in the Midwest, and Bernie would have won those states easily.

Swing states in the midwest
IA: Clinton win
MN: Sanders win
WI: Sanders win
MI: Sanders win
OH: Clinton win
PA: Clinton win

Clinton swept pretty much every swing state elsewhere.

IA was before he had the momentum from almost winning IA. PA was closed. And I'm sure he would have done better in even states that he didn't win in the primary like I doubt Hillary would have done as well in Indiana in 2008 as Obama despite winning it in the primary.

If PA being closed excuses a double digit loss, then WI and MN weren't really sanders wins because they were caucuses.

WI was a primary. There are more closed primaries than caucuses, so that hurt Bernie. He didn't win a single closed primary, although Kentucky was pretty close.

[Shadows]

Tonight proved that Bernie bros have it wrong, and that the center-left is where the majority of the country is at.

It’s been crystal clear given Northam’s win over Periello and landslide over Gillespie that moderate Third Wayism wins out over far left Bernie-ism.

Berniecrats have NOTHING to show for themselves but moral victories. You can’t live off daddy’s credit card forever little kids.

LOL whatever the corporatist Clintonian shills need to tell themselves in order to sleep at night. Northam should have won this race by at least double digits with Trump in the White House, but he failed to do even that much! Perriello was obviously the best choice but the Virginia Democratic establishment rigged it against him.

If anything, Democratic Socialist Lee Carter's win over GOP Del. Jackson Miller in Manassas shows that Berniecrats are right on the direction the Democratic Party needs to head in.

7/7 in Somerville, Mass. 3/4 in Virginia. DSA Lee carter defeating GOP Whip. Andre Jenkins becoming the 1st transgender woman in MN & so on. And ofcourse Larry Krasner is the DA now.

This has to be one of the best results downballot for Berniecrats & a fantastic day. Nothing to be unhappy about. Northam was fighting on a 15$ Min Wage & was forced to move left on many issues. Besides Virginia is a safe D state where any Democrat will win.

Berniecrats should really be happy with today's performance.

RALPH NORTHAM REKT TOM PERIELLO WHO WAS THE BERNIECRAT AND LANDSLIDED THE GOP YOU FOOL

THAT'S BECAUSE IT WAS RIGGED LIKE EVERY OTHER DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY!

THE ONLY THING THAT HAS BEEN RIGGED WAS THE GENERAL ELECTION LAST YEAR BY RHSSIA

Lol that's just an excuse that corporate Democrat shills use to justify Shillary Clinton's loss against Donald Trump. Just admit that Hillary Clinton was a bad candidate, and that she lost fair and square!

If Hillary had a message for the white working class and actually paid attention to the Midwest, maybe we wouldn't have Donald Trump as our President!

Maybe if Bernie wasn’t toxic to black voters and scammed college students into donating their life savings he could’ve been the nominee and lose by 10 points in the GE

Bernie may have been murdered by African American voters in the Southern Primaries, but it's not like those states would have mattered in the general election anyways.

The states that actually mattered where the ones in the Midwest, and Bernie would have won those states easily.

Swing states in the midwest
IA: Clinton win
MN: Sanders win
WI: Sanders win
MI: Sanders win
OH: Clinton win
PA: Clinton win

Clinton swept pretty much every swing state elsewhere.

That is a stupid way to judge electability. Hillary had 0 support among Republicans & Independents. By 0, I mean pretty low. And she excited no-one, not even the Democratic base.

Obama lost PA, Iowa, Indiana, New Hampshire, etc & won them all in the GE. How is a primary supposed win/loss an indicator? You have to be insanely biased to even belief that Sanders would have lost the Mid-west.

[Shadows]

I like Ralph Northam - he has a storied past of being a very genuine and honorable person - but I feel like, in terms of political goals, I would like a more left-wing Democratic nominee.

Do you ever take into account electability? Like ever? Some radical left-wing nut job won’t win the GE for you.

Turns out most polls, elections, ballot measures show left wing candidates are actually in some way centrists as they have the support of 50-60% of the voters on most issues.

So-called radical centrist candidates who are economically right wing are pretty unelectable, as has been proven in most polls. Tom Perriello was out-performing Northam in every damn poll. And anyways a DSA member branded as a communist in Lee Carter, who looks like a litte boy, went ahead & beat the GOP Whip.

Besides the swings in Montana & Kansas have been massive & far greater than any so-called centrist candidate provided. And how can you call someone a nutjob who asks for Universal Healthcare which every developed country has. Not supporting it, rather, makes someone an extremist nutjob.