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« on: November 10, 2017, 08:35:18 pm »

41% Gretchen Whitmer (D)
40% Bill Schuette (R)

47% Mike Duggan (D)
32% Bill Schuette (R)

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Duggan hasn't jumped into the race, though.
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2017, 08:42:49 pm »

41% Gretchen Whitmer (D)
40% Bill Schuette (R)

47% Mike Duggan (D)
32% Bill Schuette (R)

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Duggan hasn't jumped into the race, though.

Would Duggan actually be a top-tier candidate? I've read only limited stuff on him but that is quite a gap there.
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2017, 10:53:24 pm »

Wow: that is an impressive margin for Duggan! What makes him so much better of a candidate (according to this poll, at least) than Gretchen Whitmer? Is it just name recognition?
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2017, 11:38:39 pm »

By all indications, Duggan doesn't appear to be interested in jumping in.

I would be shocked if Duggan has a higher name recognition than Whitmer. Whitmer has been around for years and almost certainly is more well known in Michigan.

As for why Duggan is doing so much better than Whitmer, best guess is that he's gaining from the shine of Detroit's bounce back, while Whitmer might have a little "been around too long" syndrome.

I'm a huge fan of Duggan; all signs point to him not running, but this poll could encourage him to take the leap.
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2017, 11:51:37 pm »

Wow: that is an impressive margin for Duggan! What makes him so much better of a candidate (according to this poll, at least) than Gretchen Whitmer? Is it just name recognition?

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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2017, 11:58:48 pm »

By all indications, Duggan doesn't appear to be interested in jumping in.

I would be shocked if Duggan has a higher name recognition than Whitmer. Whitmer has been around for years and almost certainly is more well known in Michigan.

As for why Duggan is doing so much better than Whitmer, best guess is that he's gaining from the shine of Detroit's bounce back, while Whitmer might have a little "been around too long" syndrome.

I'm a huge fan of Duggan; all signs point to him not running, but this poll could encourage him to take the leap.

Is El-Sayed gaining any traction?
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2017, 12:08:03 am »

Mike Duggan just won re-election as mayor on Tuesday. He’s not going to run.
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2017, 09:11:08 am »

By all indications, Duggan doesn't appear to be interested in jumping in.

I would be shocked if Duggan has a higher name recognition than Whitmer. Whitmer has been around for years and almost certainly is more well known in Michigan.

As for why Duggan is doing so much better than Whitmer, best guess is that he's gaining from the shine of Detroit's bounce back, while Whitmer might have a little "been around too long" syndrome.

I'm a huge fan of Duggan; all signs point to him not running, but this poll could encourage him to take the leap.

Is El-Sayed gaining any traction?

Sadly, I don't think that he is. At least not yet. He's barnstorming the State, meeting with and talking with a lot of voters, but I'm just not sure how many people he's convincing.

Frankly, his biggest problem (aside from being a brown, Muslim man in the Midwest) is that he's only 32. Lotta Midwest voters would have a hard time voting for anyone age 32, let alone a brown one with the name Abdul.

Mike Duggan just won re-election as mayor on Tuesday. He’s not going to run.
If Mike Duggan thinks he can win the primary and general and wants to be governor, that won't stop him. Problem is he's denied it for years (not that that matters much) and that MI dems have been wanting Whitmer to run for a while now. Much as I wish it weren't so, it seems to me like Whitmer has an "it's her turn" type of backing from the state party and it isn't clear that the apparatus would prefer Duggan. If there are several polls like this, that sort of thinking could change...

In Illinois, the state Dem party had been lobbying Kennedy to run for a while, but once he did, the party dumped him for a "better" candidate; it isn't clear that the Michigan party would do the same for Duggan.
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2017, 10:38:21 am »

I wish Mark Hackel would run he'd basically close any R's path by winning Macomb by a good margin.
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2017, 06:50:34 pm »

By all indications, Duggan doesn't appear to be interested in jumping in.

I would be shocked if Duggan has a higher name recognition than Whitmer. Whitmer has been around for years and almost certainly is more well known in Michigan.

As for why Duggan is doing so much better than Whitmer, best guess is that he's gaining from the shine of Detroit's bounce back, while Whitmer might have a little "been around too long" syndrome.

I'm a huge fan of Duggan; all signs point to him not running, but this poll could encourage him to take the leap.

Honestly, I'm not that surprised that Duggan is a better known that Whitmer. Being Mayor of Detroit carries a lot of attention, while despite being the former Democratic leader in the State Senate, Whiter is still just a state senator. Though it is a moot point because as you said, Duggan most likely isn't running.
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2017, 09:06:39 pm »

I wish Mark Hackel would run he'd basically close any R's path by winning Macomb by a good margin.

Mark Hackel brazenly shat on Mark Schauer in 2014 by actively not endorsing him for Governor, and also endorsed a couple of downballot Republicans to take over Macomb county politics. the guy is the kind of person you run for Governor in Alabama, not Michigan.
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2017, 09:40:08 am »

Freep story on a potential Duggan run.

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Whitmer has been running all year, all out, and her one-point lead reinforces the whispers that have shot through Democratic circles this year that despite her impressive fundraising, and growing institutional support, she is not a good candidate. There have been efforts to recruit others into the race, including U.S. Sen. Gary Peters and attorney Mark Bernstein, to strengthen Democratic chances.
Duggan, by contrast, likely beat what you'd expect for a generic Democrat in the poll, at 15 points. There’s no way Democrats – local or national – can ignore that showing, given the stakes. Remember that in 2010 and especially in 2014, it was the weakness of Democratic candidates that handed the governor's race to Republicans. Those losses, together with last year's presidential loss to Donald Trump, ratchet up the pressure to field a sure winner. 

The opening is there for Duggan, but it's an open question whether he can get past Whitmer in the primary.
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