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« on: November 11, 2017, 10:57:39 AM »
« edited: March 08, 2018, 02:07:24 PM by Frodo »
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2017, 11:21:41 AM »
America is LOSING out under Crooked Trump! SAD!
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2017, 12:05:33 PM »
This is what our nation gets when we elected an xenophobic into office.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2017, 03:07:45 PM »
I'm glad we're not a part of this!
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2017, 03:29:46 PM »
So it looks like pulling out of this agreement was just pure symbolism for the demagogues on the left and right. I hope they're happy with the damage they've done.
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2017, 05:05:17 PM »
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So it looks like pulling out of this agreement was just pure symbolism for the demagogues on the left and right. I hope they're happy with the damage they've done.


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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2017, 07:46:18 PM »
Lucky them!!! Hopefully we will join someday.
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2017, 10:34:06 PM »
Quote from: Michael Bloomberg on November 11, 2017, 07:46:18 PM
Lucky them!!! Hopefully we will join someday.
And this does nothing for the USA except cost us thousands of jobs.
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2017, 10:50:00 PM »
Quote from: MB on November 11, 2017, 10:34:06 PM
Quote from: Michael Bloomberg on November 11, 2017, 07:46:18 PM
Lucky them!!! Hopefully we will join someday.
And this does nothing for the USA except cost us thousands of jobs.
Except it doesn't. It just makes things more affordable, gives people more opportunities, and allows us to export more.
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2017, 10:53:00 PM »
Quote from: MB on November 11, 2017, 10:34:06 PM
Quote from: Michael Bloomberg on November 11, 2017, 07:46:18 PM
Lucky them!!! Hopefully we will join someday.
And this does nothing for the USA except cost us thousands of jobs.

Actually most of the jobs were already lost because of trade policies. TPP is really just a giveaway to the corporations to not have to follow rules they don't want to.
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2017, 12:19:43 AM »
There were a ton of flaws in TPP and reasons to be wary, but it's not the type of free trade agreement that would cost the US jobs.
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2017, 01:30:10 AM »
Quote from: Michael Bloomberg on November 11, 2017, 07:46:18 PM
Lucky them!!! Hopefully we will join someday.

I like the way you think Smiley.
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2017, 09:35:08 AM »
Obviously the U.S. is going to join once Cory Booker is president -- but without having had a say in the process. Thanks, Trump.
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2017, 06:43:47 PM »
Quote from: Gucci Gang on November 13, 2017, 09:35:08 AM
Obviously the U.S. is going to join once Cory Booker is president -- but without having had a say in the process. Thanks, Trump.
Not on my watch
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2017, 11:13:14 PM »
Quote from: Gucci Gang on November 13, 2017, 09:35:08 AM
Obviously the U.S. is going to join once Cory Booker is president -- but without having had a say in the process. Thanks, Trump.

Yeah, I won't be voting for any of your neoliberal idols.
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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2017, 11:19:35 PM »
Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 13, 2017, 11:13:14 PM
Quote from: Gucci Gang on November 13, 2017, 09:35:08 AM
Obviously the U.S. is going to join once Cory Booker is president -- but without having had a say in the process. Thanks, Trump.

Yeah, I won't be voting for any of your neoliberal idols.

Will you still be living in California? I think President Booker will be just fine. Hopefully he takes his big win as a repudiation of Trump's awful trade policies.
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2017, 03:27:56 AM »
tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump is coaxed into a trade agreement very similar to this, seeing as one of the main aims of the TPP was to encircle and isolate China economically, and that's Trump's goal as well.
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2017, 04:48:43 PM »
Trade agreements are not the same thing as free trade as it is a managed alliance. There were a lot of autonomy issues at stake with the TPP that made it unattractive for many libertarians and conservatarians.

Free trade would be removing tariffs and subsidies unilaterally - like Hong Kong for the most part has done.
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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2017, 06:13:56 PM »
Just a reminder that without America, it’s absolutely possible that Russia may attempt to enter this trade deal and directly lead it, threatening our leadership throughout the Pacific. Or an ally of theirs, such as India, may be used for Russia to indirectly lead it.
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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2018, 04:22:26 PM »
« Edited: February 23, 2018, 04:25:48 PM by Frodo »
Giving in to pressure from congressional Republicans, Trump has hinted that rejoining the TPP is a 'possibility'.

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« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2018, 07:52:25 PM »
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Giving in to pressure from congressional Republicans, Trump has hinted that rejoining the TPP is a 'possibility'.

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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2018, 01:48:35 PM »
U.S. Allies Sign Sweeping Trade Deal in Challenge to Trump

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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2018, 08:18:43 PM »
Good for them. I don't really care what happens with the rebranded TPP as long as the U.S. doesn't enter it.
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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2018, 04:59:58 PM »
Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 12, 2017, 10:53:00 PM
Quote from: MB on November 11, 2017, 10:34:06 PM
Quote from: Michael Bloomberg on November 11, 2017, 07:46:18 PM
Lucky them!!! Hopefully we will join someday.
And this does nothing for the USA except cost us thousands of jobs.

Actually most of the jobs were already lost because of trade policies. TPP is really just a giveaway to the corporations to not have to follow rules they don't want to.
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« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2018, 07:13:18 AM »

You don't want American consumers to have more money in their pockets to spend on American goods? Not very patriotic of you... :-p
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