Maher: It doesn't matter if Democratic primary was rigged

[NewYorkExpress]

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/359914-bill-maher-to-brazile-it-doesnt-matter-if-dem-primary-was-rigged

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I never pegged Bill Maher for a Hillary supporter.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Maher's reasoning defies logic.  It's OK the primary was rigged because it's over???

[cvparty]

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[MAINEiac4434]

Maher's reasoning defies logic.  It's OK the primary was rigged because it's over???

He didn’t say it’s ok. He said it’s irrelevant to the fight at hand, and there are much more important things to be focusing on.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

If they rig it as extremely as they did last time, they'll easily rig it again.

[Shadows]

Maher's reasoning defies logic.  It's OK the primary was rigged because it's over???

He didn’t say it’s ok. He said it’s irrelevant to the fight at hand, and there are much more important things to be focusing on.

Maher is not always right. No-one is. For that matter, Maher in the same show also said Bernie is his guy for 2020.

The point is Maher desperately wants Trump to be beaten by a Democrat, unlike some fake centrist posters here who would rather lose to Trump than win with a progressive.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Who ever has Ann Coulter as a friend should not be taken seriously.

[Enduro]

Future rigging's need to be prevented...

[Antonio the Sixth]

I never pegged Bill Maher for a Hillary supporter.

lolwhat? He's centrist Democrat smugness personified.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Maher's reasoning defies logic.  It's OK the primary was rigged because it's over???

He didn’t say it’s ok. He said it’s irrelevant to the fight at hand, and there are much more important things to be focusing on.

Maher is not always right. No-one is. For that matter, Maher in the same show also said Bernie is his guy for 2020.

The point is Maher desperately wants Trump to be beaten by a Democrat, unlike some fake centrist posters here who would rather lose to Trump than win with a progressive.

Im a progressive but I have seen more far left posters here say they'd rather loss to Trump then keep with the status quo then what you say

[Rookie Yinzer]

Well they weren’t rigged so Maher’s comments on the matter are irrelevant.

[BlueSwan]

Well they weren’t rigged so Maher’s comments on the matter are irrelevant.

Indeed. I wish these conspiracy theorists would tell us exactly HOW the primaries were supposedly rigged. Did Sanders not get on the ballot? Did they not count all the votes? Did they not hold debates? Did they prevent Sanders from getting media coverage in some way?

There is no doubt that the people working at the DNC overwhelmingly favoured Clinton, as did almost all elected democrats and superdelegates. But I've seen zero evidence of any kind of actual "rigging" of anything.

[Maxwell]

I really think the Democratic Primary thing was a) blown out of proportion and b) doesn't matter anymore.

I mean the primary was rigged the way it always is - the party apparatus always favors a certain candidate that won't rock the boat and they think is most electable (regardless of, in Hillary's case, how realistic that actually is). The reason it's this big case is that their e-mails were hacked and we kinda got an expose how stupid these people running the DNC are.

The DNC and the way the primaries operate need massive reforms, but to keep talking about the primaries is not interesting or enlightening. It's time to move on.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Future rigging's need to be prevented...

     There is something a little perverse about ignoring a problem because there is a more pressing one when that smaller problem helped create the larger problem. The primary shenanigans can't be anyone's biggest priority at the moment, but "it doesn't matter" is awfully blithe considering the potential for something similar to happen in the future.

[BlueSwan]

Future rigging's need to be prevented...

     There is something a little perverse about ignoring a problem because there is a more pressing one when that smaller problem helped create the larger problem. The primary shenanigans can't be anyone's biggest priority at the moment, but "it doesn't matter" is awfully blithe considering the potential for something similar to happen in the future.

But the primary wasn't rigged.

Superdelegates are part of the system the party has chosen to pick their nominee. One may not like that system, but it has nothing to do with some shady "rigging" of anything-.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Future rigging's need to be prevented...

     There is something a little perverse about ignoring a problem because there is a more pressing one when that smaller problem helped create the larger problem. The primary shenanigans can't be anyone's biggest priority at the moment, but "it doesn't matter" is awfully blithe considering the potential for something similar to happen in the future.

But the primary wasn't rigged.

Superdelegates are part of the system the party has chosen to pick their nominee. One may not like that system, but it has nothing to do with some shady "rigging" of anything-.

     I didn't refer to it, but I actually don't like the use of that word; it overdramatizes what actually happened here. I guess the word "shenanigans" kind of does the same thing now that I think about it.

[BlueSwan]

I personally quite like the idea of the party establishment having a degree of sway over the primaries via the superdelegate system. It protects the party from falling into the hands of extremists, like the GOP arguably has. Since the US party system is effectively a two party system, there's also a national interest in keeping the only two parties that count out of the hands of the insane. Much of the problems of government gridlock stems from the GOP becoming a hardliner party.

Fundamentally, I think a true multiparty system with a proportional vote system is much better than the first past the post system that creates two-party dynasties. In a true multiparty system, both fringes have their own parties and have their voices heard, but they usually don't hold much sway over the actual legislative process - instead that is typically dominated by center-right and center-left parties that keeps the system sane and tolerable for most people.

But as long as the US does not have such a system, a system where the two parties have mechanisms to keep their fringe elements somewhat in check, is preferred. The democrats have the super delegates. The GOP.....well, they have gone to sh*t.

[DavidB.]

The Democratic establishment did America a great favor by rigging the process and allowing a qualified candidate to win the nomination.

One only wishes the Republican establishment had done the same.

[Inmate Trump]

It’s not okay; it’s shameful.

But so is colluding with Russia.

[BlueSwan]

It’s not okay; it’s shameful.

What exactly was shameful. Be specific, please.

[bilaps]

It's not okay; it's shameful.

What exactly was shameful. Be specific, please.

Stop trolling, it was rigged, everyone with a brain could figure it out. EVERYTHING was rigged for Hillary. She was the anointed one

[136or142]

It's not okay; it's shameful.

What exactly was shameful. Be specific, please.

Stop trolling, it was rigged, everyone with a brain could figure it out. EVERYTHING was rigged for Hillary. She was the anointed one

The process may have been rigged slightly against Bernie Sanders, but that's mostly because it would have been the DNC that would have done the rigging and he would have had no say over what they did because he's not a Democrat.

It seems to me what all this comes down to is that the Sanders campaign wanted the benefits of being able to say that 'Sanders isn't a Democrat' while thinking they could whine sufficiently to eliminate any of the costs.  Not a surprise to me that some at the DNC pushed back on the Sanders Campaign rather cynical game.

[BlueSwan]

It's not okay; it's shameful.

What exactly was shameful. Be specific, please.

Stop trolling, it was rigged, everyone with a brain could figure it out. EVERYTHING was rigged for Hillary. She was the anointed one

It's not trolling in the slightest. It is very easy to claim that the contest was "rigged", but there's no proof of any wrongdoing at all. Superdelegates have been in place for decades, those were not invented by Hillary. The fact that most of the DNC supported Hillary doesn't explain why the election proces in itself should be rigged either.

You and others are the accusers. Well, bring the proof. Tell us exactly HOW this election was supposedly rigged.

[Hydera]

It's not okay; it's shameful.

What exactly was shameful. Be specific, please.

Stop trolling, it was rigged, everyone with a brain could figure it out. EVERYTHING was rigged for Hillary. She was the anointed one

It's not trolling in the slightest. It is very easy to claim that the contest was "rigged", but there's no proof of any wrongdoing at all. Superdelegates have been in place for decades, those were not invented by Hillary. The fact that most of the DNC supported Hillary doesn't explain why the election proces in itself should be rigged either.

You and others are the accusers. Well, bring the proof. Tell us exactly HOW this election was supposedly rigged.

No evidence of the primary rigged.



bernie supporters consider the massive amount of endorsements she had to be 'unfair' even though  most officeheld and retired and other notable democrats endorsing Hillary which isnt surprising considering she was a huge figure in the party for decades.

If anything the primaries were rigged for bernie because of caucuses. He'd won more unpledged delegates than he would had if it wasnt for the caucus ystem in a handful of states. In Washington he got 72% of delegates when a nonbinding mail primary was mailed to those who registered as democrats he lost the popular vote. And also if Oregon had a caucus system Bernie would had gotten 70%+ of unpledged delegates despite getting 56% in the non caucus system.

[Green Line]

He's right you know.  Deal with it.