Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls

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Looks like Breitbart is jumping off the Moore train:

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Paul Ryan joins everyone else in calling for Moore to step down:

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Also Drudge is not being nice to Moore either.

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Alabama GOP having an emergency meeting at 5pm EST

Roy Moore press conference too

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Anyway, watch Republicans seize on the Franken story as proof that both sides do it so they can be justified in voting for Moore

One of a thousand reasons why the Democrats need to force Franken to resign or otherwise eject him. They can take a moral high ground here.

Too late.

Eh, Mitch McConnell gave him some time with the ethics investigation.

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You know what I’m not buying this new poll the reason is because.....

It has Jeff Sessions and trump at worse approval ratings then Doug Jones,there is no way Jeff Sessions is at only
51-40 approval.

It is if Republicans are discouraged and not voting, thus falling out of the "likely voter screen". That would skew the electorate. Remember this is a special election so there could be a skew effect on the demographics of those who are voting. And considering that the Republican candidate happens to be a predatory animal, that would tend to put a damper on Republican, Conservative and Evangelical turnout, as well as there participation in polling.

Not only all of that, but Democrats are fired up.

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Not sure if this is what has been posted:

'Absolutely not': Richard Shelby won't vote for Roy Moore

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Doug Jones raked in $250k per day -- "Ossoff-level money" -- after Roy Moore scandal broke.

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Madison County and Mobile County are the ones to really watch.

I fully expect Madison County to go for Jones. It's % college Educated is too high for Moore. Not so sure about Mobile County.

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Most media endorsed Hillary too...and in Missouri, it went to Koster...

Doug Jones is not Hillary Clinton.

And the calvary is not coming in to help.

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Gadsden Police Officer From The Time:

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A rumored rapist which I still don’t buy because that year book looks super fake.

The guy was banned from the mall, FFS.

A manger at that time said he was not banned.

That guy was manager of the mall starting in 1981, past the time of these assaults.

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Most of the people I'm talking to still say they're voting for Moore. They say they're doing it with hopes he gets kicked out of the Senate and Gov. Ivey appoints another Republican.

That's called trying to rationalize doing what they know is wrong.

Also these are the types of folks (not the specifically the folks Alabama_Indy10 is talking about) that tend to not show up to the polls at the same % as true believers.

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Jones was openly pro-choice months ago, why is this a big deal right now at this very moment?

Also it should be noted that Jones basically has the airwaves to himself for months and there is no outside calvary coming in for Moore.

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Unless the Jones campaign is willingly breaking FEC rules then its an online ad maybe for YouTube and FB. Maybe they think the ad is too racy for TV.

I've seen a new version online that starts off with Jones essentially introducing the ad.

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And people wonder why O'Keefe has no creditability.

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McConnell would need to get the entire Democratic caucus on board to expel Moore, plus 19 Republicans.

48 Democrats/Independents + Collins, Murkowski, Gardner, Flake, McCain is 53. Corker might vote to expel, perhaps even Heller which would bring it to 55 votes. Shelby came out against Moore, so that is a possible 56th vote. Toomey. Portman and Ernst are possibilities, but unreliable ones but let's add them for arguments same for 59. And if McConnell really wants him gone, that is 60 votes. Those last 7 votes are where things could get tough.

What would Shelby do? He already said he wrote in another Republican. Would he vote to expel?

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Moore by 6. Calling it.

6 teens?

You forgot the part were they yell Roll Tide after they're done.

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Win or lose, Moore will still burn in hell for what he is done. And I sincerely hope that he does when it's time for judgment day. AN ELECTION AIN'T TICKET OUT OF HELL, LOL!

Again we don’t even know if what the women claimed is true.

That's what's so incredible. 95% of people on this site treat him as guilty until proven innocent (and I'm not sure they'd even accept it if he was proven innocent). I think he did date girls aged 16-18 with whom he did not have sex (according to all of those stories he was quite respectful and never went beyond kissing). Those stories all fit together soundly, however the allegation that he raped a 14 year old has him displaying an entirely different behavior towards her than is seen in any of the other cases. It also has no evidence for it besides a yearbook that the accuser's lawyer won't allow a neutral party to check for authenticity.

Moore is leading in the RCP average again. It seems most Alabama voters aren't convinced. I think he will win narrowly. After that, the Senate should demand the yearbook and check its veracity. If Moore is guilty, I hope there's enough proof to give him prison time. If he's innocent, I hope people here will stop saying "Republicans elected a pedophile."

Moore's behavior post revelations does not imply innocence. He stayed off the campaign trail for 8 days, which is incredibly suspicious behavior for an innocent man. None of the accusers gain anything by lying, other than finally gaining the chance to be heard.
 

It's incredibly suspicious that the accuser's lawyer won't allow the yearbook to be verified by a neutral third party. The notion that an accuser must automatically be believed because "she has no reason to lie" ought to have been done away with after the media ruined the lives of several innocent young men in the famous Duke Lacrosse trial with that exact attitude. I never even liked Roy Moore, but it's innocent until proven guilty, and there is no proof as of right now.

I asked before and you deplorables said nothing, so I'll ask again.
Even if we assume that Beverly Young lied, what about the seven other accusers?
What about people from that era who confirm that the guy was a known creep, harassing teen girls at the mall and their schools?
Are they all part of a giant conspiracy of gays, transgender and socialists?

I said it before and apparently the message was not received: ROY MOORE COULD PERSONALLY DIDDLE PENNSYLVANIA DEPLORABLE AND GREEDO AND THEYD STILL VOTE FOR HIM CUZ MUH DEMOCRAT

And when he was done he'd yell "Roll Tide!"

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Some in AL business community worried about effects of a Moore win

There needs to be a HB2 style boycott of Alabama if Roy Moore is elected.

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If Moore wins (as I think is likely), I'm blaming it on the Democrats not forcing Franken, Conyers, and Kihuen into immediate resignation. Alabungans can see these things just as well as we can, and they see no reason why things should be any different for Moore than it is for these democrats. Had those democrats been forced into immediate resignation, I feel that Moore's surge would never have occurred.

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