Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls

[Gustaf]

If I were the Governor I would order Gloria to turn over the yearbook for analysis or I would reset the election date.

What kind of country do you think we live in? You can't just cancel elections because your candidate didn't work out. I really would hate to see what our system would look like if designed by contemporary conservatives. Literally zero interest in how the system works so long as it elects conservatives consistently. Sheesh

Republicans need to Learn to fight.

What have they been doing for decades now then? They literally just stole a Supreme Court seat from Obama, and like a hundred lower court seats as well. Republicans always push the limits of what is acceptable. If you think they don't fight at all, I can't imagine what you think actual 'fighting' is..

Honestly I think you need to bone up on contemporary politics and maybe revisit what you think is acceptable in elections and governing in a politically divided country.

He's a Republican in the age of Trump, hej obviously hates the Constitution.

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You guys should really leave the thread to the grown-ups.

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Alabama Gov: Roy Moore May Be a Child Molester, But At Least He’s Not a Democrat

Alabama Governor Kay Ivey accidentally gave away the Religious Right’s secret yesterday when she was answering questions about fellow Republican Roy Moore. She said of his accusers, “I certainly have no reason to disbelieve any of them.” She added: “There’s never an excuse for or rationale for sexual misconduct or sexual abuse.”

“I’m going to cast my ballot on December the 12th, and I do believe the nominee of the party is the one I’ll vote for,” Ivey said. “I believe in the Republican Party, what we stand for, and most important, we need to have a Republican in the United States Senate to vote on things like the Supreme Court justices, other appointments the Senate has to confirm and make major decisions. So that’s what I plan to do, vote for Republican nominee Roy Moore.”

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/11/18/alabama-gov-roy-moore-may-be-a-child-molester-but-at-least-hes-not-a-democrat/

This comment from her perfectly describes modern conservatism.

Maybe she feels that way because modern liberalism has become so terrifying: open borders, 7 year olds deciding they are transgender, leftist limits on free speech, violent Antia, violent resistance, violent black lives matters, Soros, etc.  Could go on and on.

Yeah the Jews and Blacks have become pretty uppity as of late, scary stuff.

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Guys, seriously. There are 3 people here who are either Russian trolls or fake Christians who support child molestation and are going to hell. These people aren't rational humans worthy of debate. They're bad people who contribute nothing. Stop engaging them, they aren't trying to engage you in civilized discourse.

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Guys, seriously. There are 3 people here who are either Russian trolls or fake Christians who support child molestation and are going to hell. These people aren't rational humans worthy of debate. They're bad people who contribute nothing. Stop engaging them, they aren't trying to engage you in civilized discourse.

Even though I get and idea from the posts that have been copied, who is defending sexual assault the most out of the three Horrible's?

I seriously wonder how many sexual assault charges these posters have racked up between them? Well, none for creepo obviously since he's like 12

I guess they've been careful enough to put themselves in environments where sexual assaults rarely gets charged.

Greedo is the one most openly in support of sexual assault because he doesn't really care to defend Moore. EnglishPete is doing crazy conspiracy nonsense as usual. Arkansas Yankee is doing a FuzzyBear routine of "aw shucks" likeable folksiness to hide his agenda but he's coming off as pretty pro-molestation as well.

It's just annoying to have the thread cluttered with arguments over whether Good Christians should molest minors or not. I want to follow the actual race.

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So we are Russian trolls.  That is from folks who undoubtedly supported Ted Kennedy who actually went to the Soviet Union in 1984 to ask for Soviet help to defeat Reagan. 

You also support a party that through their nuclear winter crusade undermined Reagan repeatedly in his efforts to deal with the Soviet Union.

Do you want to talk about what real collusion is like.  I thought not.  I tell you again if Trump colluded with Russia or the Russians aided him, the Russians made a real BIG mistake.  He is not following Russian policy in Europe, the Mideast, North Africa, Israel, or North Korea.  Obama and Clinton policies were actually more in tune with Putin's than Trump's policies are.  Your brains are so clouded with delusion from your loss that you cannot see the trees for the Forrest in your fogged minds. Show me one area were he is actually supporting Russian policy. 

Then you charge me with supporting child molesters.  You should not talk about people you do not know. I was molested when I was 16 after a year of grooming. Back then matters like that were just not reported.  I hope my molester died of Aids.

Yes I detest Gloria Allred.

My great hope still is to force Moore out and then get him more votes so Jones will not be elected. My hope is that Moore wrote the notation and Nelson forged the signature.  I actually think that is what happened.  Then maybe we can get rid of Moore and at least wound Gloria.

Why don't you guys take care of your main sex pervert before you start attacking other innocent people like me.  Why don't you atone for supporting a man who let a young lady die in a pond.  Why don't you atone for your party's undermining of Reagan.  Jeepers. 

It's a little bizarre to complain I don't know you and then base your entire defence on conjuring up positions out of thin air and ascribe them to me. Ted Kennedy is dead, I never particularly liked him, I liked Reagan's USSR policy and either way whether Democrats were good or bad in the 80s is extremely irrelevant to today's politics. I'm sure you would have hated the Republican party under Lincoln which threatened your precious White Southern rights, for example. But I don't hold that against you.

Well, I don't really "charge" you. You are open about your support for Moore. I'm also not sure who my main sex pervert is or why I need to take care of something before I'm allowed to do something else. You don't get to dictate my priority order. Why don't we start with the next election that is actually happening and that this thread is about and not support this creep, for example.

And, yes, Shadows is right that it's amusing that you go straight to whataboutism.

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It's kind of amazing when you take a step back and realize what this discussion even is. Serial kid molester, should he step down, is it the kids' fault, can he win? It's pretty f**king bananas we're even asking any of those questions.

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It'd be really nice if we could have less cultist pedophile worship in this thread and more focus on actual news about the race.

The 1000th Republican post just saying "I am an evil person devoid of morality" is pretty monotonous.

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It'd be really nice if we could have less cultist pedophile worship in this thread and more focus on actual news about the race.

The 1000th Republican post just saying "I am an evil person devoid of morality" is pretty monotonous.

Why don’t you stop calling people names.  That would be a great start.

Lol, conservatives are such sensitive snowflakes. Look, if you insist on fervently defending pedophilia you're gonna get criticised for it. If you can't handle criticism, then go find a safe space for pedo lovers where you can voice your opinion without having to handle dissent. But either way stop whining about people calling you out for your views and behave like a grown man.

[Gustaf]

I agree with the posters elsewhere that a Democrat wave is building.  That danger is the final reason to support Moore. The GOP has things to accomplish, especially regarding the courts.  We cannot allow another Democrat in now, who will try to screw up the works.  

I want the courts to at least give me and the country protection from some of the thinking of some hard left Democrats.

Pedophiles: at least they're not Democrats.

He is not a pedophile.  If they occurred, they were 40 years ago.  A person can be forgiven for acts 40 years.  The GOP if it wakes up can expel him he lied about the yearbook.  The proof would come handwriting analysis not DNA analysis.

A person cannot be forgiven for child molestation, especially when they refuse to admit what happened.

(can't wait to get death points for this message. worth it.)

 

I am also a survivor.  My father was an alcoholic and was never in my life. Never had a good day with him in my life.  When I was 14 almost 15 I became active in the Republican Party. For a year a man groomed me and struck when I was 16. Luckily, I had the sense to put a stop to it right then.  I almost let it go on, as I was craving male attention. My father later killed my aunt, his sister, who provided him with lodging, so he was not homeless.  After killing his sister he committed suicide.  

I have suffered for years with depression and suicidal thoughts.   I and my counselors assumed it arose from the above described  events.  However, about 10 years ago I learned that depression can be caused by severe head injuries.  When I was 8, I tripped over a bat.  I hit my head on the floor.  I was out like a light for a day and half.  I started taking seizure medication.  It relieved much of my depression.

I have also discovered that fall may have caused the Parkinson’s I now struggle with. But the Parkinson’s medication seems to have relieved the remaining depression.  

I was lucky enough to marry a wonderful woman who was able to stay with me in spite of my overwhelming depression.  I have a wonderful son.  He is living the political life I wish I had had in the DC area with his wife and two boys. Faith in God also helped through my life.

Sometimes I wish my molester has died of AIDS. Other times I hope he has reformed and found peace. The real damage he did was to destroy our one year relationship and my relationship with men in general.  His actions confirmed my mistrust of men developed by my father.

So this all leads me to the point that everyone who posts here need to stop their personal attacks on people they do not know who post here.  Everyone needs to stop the use of foul language.  Folks tend to use language on the internet they would not use in person.

With respect to the two accusers who relate true sexual offenses, I would suggest the offenses  are not heinous enough to disqualify a man who has had a 40 year period of no additional charges. I have serious reservations about Nelson’s claims.  I do not believe that either accuser has revealed sufficient trauma from one incident with no grooming to overcome 40 years of no charges.

You should ask your therapist about Stockholm Syndrome. Tell him a Stockholmer tipped you off to the concept.

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Yeah I don't think Moore wants to talk about how he only voted in favour of a pedophile due to a technical legal point.

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Last week "controversial flyer" scandals might be the one thing that gets the most unwarranted attention on Atlas.