How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?
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« on: November 14, 2017, 10:30:41 AM »

How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?

I find it quite strange that Christian, Muslims and Jews can ignore the immoral ways that their God is shown to have in the Bible, Qur’an and Talmud.

If you have read any of the critical books on God, you will have seen God described with some rather disingenuous terms that, if applied to a man, would see that man executed by any moral government in quick order. The Buddhist saying that if you ever meet God, kill him seems quite fitting. Frankly, I think killing him without making him suffer for a time would be too good for him. If hell were real, that would be a better end for him as mankind would surely need to see that torture to gain real closure for God’s crimes against humanity. This aside.

I can appreciate the value for society of local churches, mosques and temples but cannot fathom why lying priests, preachers and imams try to sell their God as a good God, when he is obviously more satanic than Satan. Perhaps scripture speak at least one truth in that the whole world would be deceived by Satan and his lying preachers and imams. Not that I believe in Satan.

As a Gnostic Christian, my focus has been to try to become a Parfait, a perfected moral man, using the methods Jesus taught. It has been a long climb up Jacob’s ladder and apotheosis put me up one rung and I have tried to climb higher, but seem to have stalled due to my inability to find arguments that are persuasive enough to loosen Satan’s grip on the minds of Christians, Muslims and Jews. Their need of fellowship is stronger than their work on their moral sense and they stay in their religions even though they know that their God is immoral and not worthy of their idol worship. This Gnostic Christian truth is not a flattering epithet for God, which is likely what cause their destruction by Inquisition.

The truth hurts the religious even when given with a loving touch. I am not that good at that but have seen good honest lovers of Christ get verbally abused by theists. They think hate is motivating those who speak against their God even when love is the motivator. Hate is born of love, and the Gnostic hate of God is justified on moral grounds, and the attempted correction of a believers moral sense and their thinking is done out of love. They forget that that is how Jesus was and how that love driven expression of hate with what he saw around him almost got him killed at the hands of the Jews. So the myth says.

The fact that I have had many theists resist entering into moral argument of their God indicates that they know that their God is immoral. I can appreciate that once a person accepts the fellowship that his tribal nature seeks, and he can survive without having better morals, he is loath to jeopardize the comfort zone he has created for himself. The problem is that theists are living in self-deception and for one who seeks or has attained Gnosis, a deeper knowing of himself, self-deception is basically not allowed. That is why I have to bother fighting a fight that is almost un-winnable.

If you have an answer to the question I posed at the onset, please enlighten me as I am quite disappointed to see so many living in self-deception and without Gnosis, and following Gods who are demonstrably more Satan like than God like.

In the terrible days that we will face from environmental degradation that will soon be upon us, a new and moral God will be required and we presently do not have one.

I recognize that our tribal and fellowship needs are quite strong and a part of our basic instincts. Do you have any idea as to how we can break Satan’s hold on Christians, Muslims and Jews and change their fellowship and tribal needs to a need for a God with decent moral values?

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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2017, 10:34:38 AM »

What is your opinion of meditation?
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2017, 10:41:48 AM »


I am all for it. I think it helped me to push my apotheosis.

I have yet to fast but think that might also be good for the mind as most sages and yogi recommend it. So did one of the archetypal Jesus'.

Even sleep depravation has shown that the mind actually functions better at a certain time period but that drops off when the depravation goes too far. Apologies for not having a link to offer.

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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2017, 11:48:14 AM »

Have you ever heard of George Bernard Shaw's "The adventures of the black girl in her search for God." I'm not sure, but it might be useful. If you haven't heard of it, it was written in 1932.

It was a strong condemnation of the many views of God not only in the Bible, but other views as well. It's been a while since I read it, but it does point out some flaws of modern religion.

At the time it wasn't well received, and I am sure that there are many today who would find it offensive, unfortunately. I don't know what Shaw's religion was, but the point is that he was attacking the orthodoxy of his time, and still many hold to orthodox views, today, which is tragic, of course.
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2017, 08:29:40 PM »

Have you ever heard of George Bernard Shaw's "The adventures of the black girl in her search for God." I'm not sure, but it might be useful. If you haven't heard of it, it was written in 1932.

It was a strong condemnation of the many views of God not only in the Bible, but other views as well. It's been a while since I read it, but it does point out some flaws of modern religion.

At the time it wasn't well received, and I am sure that there are many today who would find it offensive, unfortunately. I don't know what Shaw's religion was, but the point is that he was attacking the orthodoxy of his time, and still many hold to orthodox views, today, which is tragic, of course.

Sounds like a Gnostic Christian and I also think it tragic that his views did not catch fire.

Nice that he was born when he was or some Inquisitor would have caught up to him.

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