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« on: November 14, 2017, 10:49:58 am »
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BREAKING: Tanks outside Zimbabwe capital a day after army commander's warning to `step in' amid turmoil.
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2017, 10:53:42 am »
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I honestly think this is just trolling by Mugabe.
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2017, 12:06:18 pm »

I honestly think this is just trolling by Mugabe.

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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2017, 12:19:51 pm »
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As some coup-watchers have been pointing out on Twitter, the first place to look is to see what foreign diplomats are saying. As of now, no foreign embassies in Zimbabwe have issued any advisories noting unusual troop movements in Harare and the travel bulletins just now released by the British foreign office did not have any notice of political developments in Zimbabwe.

It could just be the military moving tanks around to show Mugabe that they're serious about their threat.
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2017, 03:43:05 pm »
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As some coup-watchers have been pointing out on Twitter, the first place to look is to see what foreign diplomats are saying. As of now, no foreign embassies in Zimbabwe have issued any advisories noting unusual troop movements in Harare and the travel bulletins just now released by the British foreign office did not have any notice of political developments in Zimbabwe.

It could just be the military moving tanks around to show Mugabe that they're serious about their threat.

I would like to point out that most foreign citizens wouldn't willingly go to Zimbabwe. If they went to an African country it probably would be Egypt or South Africa.
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2017, 04:40:07 pm »
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As some coup-watchers have been pointing out on Twitter, the first place to look is to see what foreign diplomats are saying. As of now, no foreign embassies in Zimbabwe have issued any advisories noting unusual troop movements in Harare and the travel bulletins just now released by the British foreign office did not have any notice of political developments in Zimbabwe.

It could just be the military moving tanks around to show Mugabe that they're serious about their threat.

I would like to point out that most foreign citizens wouldn't willingly go to Zimbabwe. If they went to an African country it probably would be Egypt or South Africa.

...Ok? I'm not sure what relevance that has to anything. Keeping nationals updated on new and dangerous conditions in foreign countries is what embassies and foreign service workers ARE THERE FOR, even in countries that aren't tourist meccas. Not many Americans want to go to North Korea but the State Department keeps a continually updated advisory for potential tourists. 
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2017, 07:07:50 pm »
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The military has moved on the broadcaster ZBC and according to AP, multiple explosions have been heard in the capital. Seems like something is happening.
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2017, 07:24:03 pm »
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https://twitter.com/usembassyharare/status/930591134241492993

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Due to ongoing uncertainty in Zimbabwe, the U.S. Embassy in Harare will be minimally staffed and closed to the public on November 15.  Embassy personnel will continue to monitor the situation closely. @StateDept
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2017, 09:35:20 pm »
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Army chief on state TV saying that they're targeting criminals around Mugabe, he & his family are safe.
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2017, 09:40:48 pm »
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Well I hope this succeeds if it's true.
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2017, 10:51:10 pm »
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Well I hope this succeeds if it's true.
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2017, 10:52:46 pm »
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Be careful what you wish for, people.
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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2017, 12:53:56 am »
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I'd love for Mugabe to be ousted, but...

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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2017, 02:37:45 am »
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So apparently the coup was successful.
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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2017, 02:41:53 am »
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So apparently the coup was successful.

Given what happened earlier this month, it's more like a counter-coup against Grace Mugabe.
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« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2017, 02:59:26 am »
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So apparently the coup was successful.

Given what happened earlier this month, it's more like a counter-coup against Grace Mugabe.

Yes it looks like the military is installing the sacked VP as President a little ahead of schedule.
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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2017, 04:09:33 am »
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Can it really be called a coup? It is probably the quietest coup ever.
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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2017, 05:47:26 am »
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FWIW the person who is expected to be put into power (the former VP) was Mugabe's former defense minister, and is still considered a hardliner.
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FWIW the person who is expected to be put into power (the former VP) was Mugabe's former defense minister, and is still considered a hardliner.

Well, hopefully he's now less of a hardliner...
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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2017, 08:54:24 am »
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Wow, that really was an underreported coup. I didn't even know it succeeded.
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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2017, 10:03:58 am »
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Mughabe is reportely under house arrest:

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President Robert Mugabe, who has ruthlessly ruled Zimbabwe for nearly four decades as one of Africa’s last liberation leaders still in power, was under house arrest on Wednesday, hours after the military announced it had taken him into custody in what appeared to be a coup.

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The military did not say whether Mr. Mugabe had been removed as president, leaving open the possibility that he may be kept on during a period of transition. But whatever happens to him, it appeared increasingly clear on Wednesday that an era was coming to a close in Africa.
Power appeared to be slipping from Mr. Mugabe as outside forces were determining his fate.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/15/world/africa/zimbabwe-coup-mugabe.html
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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2017, 11:14:12 am »

Can it really be called a coup? It is probably the quietest coup ever.

Actually, when Gaddafi took power in Libya, there were no reports for a couple of days before a cautious BBC message: "it appears some sort of a coup might've took place in Libya".
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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2017, 12:06:06 pm »
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If Grace really has fled to Namibia, It's over.
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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2017, 12:48:41 pm »
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Obviously Santander’s evergreen warning holds true, though it’s hard to see how anyone could be worse than Mugabe
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