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« on: November 16, 2017, 08:24:19 AM »

(CNN) - "US authorities will remove restrictions on importing African elephant trophies from Zimbabwe and Zambia.

That means Americans will soon be able to hunt the endangered big game, an activity that garnered worldwide attention when a Minnesota dentist took Cecil, perhaps the world's most famous lion, near a wildlife park in Zimbabwe."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/15/politics/elephant-trophies-us-restrictions-zimbabwe-zambia/index.html

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Idiots Jr. and Eric most likely lobbied hard for this. Get your elephant rifles ready Wall Streeters! To the hunt!

This makes me sick. It is probable that within my lifetime, elephants will become extinct due to BS like this.

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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2017, 09:15:14 AM »

(CNN) - "US authorities will remove restrictions on importing African elephant trophies from Zimbabwe and Zambia.

That means Americans will soon be able to hunt the endangered big game, an activity that garnered worldwide attention when a Minnesota dentist took Cecil, perhaps the world's most famous lion, near a wildlife park in Zimbabwe."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/15/politics/elephant-trophies-us-restrictions-zimbabwe-zambia/index.html

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Idiots Jr. and Eric most likely lobbied hard for this. Get your elephant rifles ready Wall Streeters! To the hunt!

This makes me sick. It is probable that within my lifetime, elephants will become extinct due to BS like this.



It's official: The Trump Clan are Bond villains.

Mr. Burns from The Simpsons is less of a caricature.
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2017, 09:17:34 AM »

Okay, that's messed up.
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2017, 09:18:43 AM »

Live shot of Trump's ideology https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHyU_rRukss
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2017, 09:30:01 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2017, 09:30:38 AM »

In some sense, I'm a bit glad that this has happened. After all, we're gonna need a whole lot of elephant heads mounted on plaques shipped in in early November of next year.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2017, 09:34:59 AM »

Disgusting
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2017, 10:14:05 AM »

Hell just got a mile deeper.
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2017, 11:46:25 AM »

What disgusting trash of sub-human beings is this administration made of?
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2017, 11:47:40 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2017, 11:48:33 AM »

Does anybody know anything about this topic?

The hunting is controlled, so they won’t be hunted to extinction. It also costs a lot to hunt these animals, and that money goes towards protection efforts.
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2017, 11:53:30 AM »

Does anybody know anything about this topic?

The hunting is controlled, so they won’t be hunted to extinction. It also costs a lot to hunt these animals, and that money goes towards protection efforts.

When the ones in the wild are still being hunted, even in preserves, and habitat is still being lost, it doesn't make sense to legally allow the breeding stock to be decreased further... 
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2017, 12:27:27 PM »

#Disgusting.
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2017, 12:28:57 PM »

Mount GOP heads to the wall instead IMO.
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2017, 12:35:30 PM »
« Edited: November 16, 2017, 12:38:43 PM by ProudModerate2 »

Does anybody know anything about this topic?

The hunting is controlled, so they won’t be hunted to extinction. It also costs a lot to hunt these animals, and that money goes towards protection efforts.

Why does someone have to get such a huge "high" from killing animals ?
Why not just give money towards protection efforts without the killing ? There are many who do this now. If the only way to get money out of people is by giving them the right to kill .... well then something must be wrong in their head.

PS: I don't have a problem with all animal hunting. But when we are talking about animals where the entire world knows are going extinct, then "trophy hunting" such creatures makes you a monster.
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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2017, 01:15:33 PM »

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-lift-ban-import-elephant-030330084.html

The Trump administration will reverse an Obama-era ban on the importation of elephant trophies from Zimbabwe and Zambia after determining that sport hunting in those countries will help conserve the species, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service confirmed Wednesday.

The decision was made public not by the federal agency but via a celebratory news release early Tuesday from Safari Club International, a trophy hunting advocacy group that, along with the National Rifle Association, sued to block the 2014 ban.

Greg Sheehan, principal deputy director of the FWS, broke the news to the hunting organization during the African Wildlife Consultative Forum (AWCF) in Tanzania, an agency spokesperson told HuffPost. The forum, which runs through Friday, is being hosted by the Safari Club International Foundation and the United Republic of Tanzania.

African elephants have been listed as threatened under the Endangered Species Act since 1978.
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2017, 01:39:55 PM »

Does anybody know anything about this topic?

The hunting is controlled, so they won’t be hunted to extinction. It also costs a lot to hunt these animals, and that money goes towards protection efforts.

When the ones in the wild are still being hunted, even in preserves, and habitat is still being lost, it doesn't make sense to legally allow the breeding stock to be decreased further... 

The question then is how to make these preserves economically sustainable, and create the incentives for more habitat to be created rather than destroyed.  Trophy hunting is an answer to that. Not a great answer, not one I really feel okay about ... but an answer.
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2017, 01:41:20 PM »

Does anybody know anything about this topic?

The hunting is controlled, so they won’t be hunted to extinction. It also costs a lot to hunt these animals, and that money goes towards protection efforts.

The government of Zimbabwe is not exactly an entity I would trust to "control" anything.
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2017, 02:48:01 PM »

Trump and kids (minus Barron and Tiffany) are pigs.
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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2017, 02:49:30 PM »

Trump and kids (minus Barron and Tiffany) are pigs.



Barron's the only one in the White House who knows what he's doing.
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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2017, 02:51:32 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2017, 02:52:18 PM »

Does anybody know anything about this topic?

The hunting is controlled, so they won’t be hunted to extinction. It also costs a lot to hunt these animals, and that money goes towards protection efforts.

When the ones in the wild are still being hunted, even in preserves, and habitat is still being lost, it doesn't make sense to legally allow the breeding stock to be decreased further... 

The question then is how to make these preserves economically sustainable, and create the incentives for more habitat to be created rather than destroyed.  Trophy hunting is an answer to that. Not a great answer, not one I really feel okay about ... but an answer.

That does nothing to stop poaching, so both happening at once decreases the overall population. It ignores the fact that preserves should be "economically viable" or "create a profit", which is a very sad view of extinction.
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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2017, 02:59:01 PM »

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« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2017, 03:31:42 PM »

Does anybody know anything about this topic?

The hunting is controlled, so they won’t be hunted to extinction. It also costs a lot to hunt these animals, and that money goes towards protection efforts.

The hunting is not "controlled".  This is Zimbabwe, for goodness sakes.  Pay the money to whatever national or local corrupt politician and you can kill a lion, elephant, rhino, whatever.  And the money doesn't go into "conservation", it goes into the corrupt politician's foreign bank account.
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« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2017, 06:49:18 PM »

This would probably have been done under any GOP president. To all the republicans saying this is ‘messed up’, this is on you for not standing up to your party’s reckless hatred of the environment.
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