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« Reply #100 on: November 16, 2017, 12:08:54 PM »

It's deeply unfair to men of good character and/or people who are redeeming themselves that they resign just because of Roy Moore.
If you’re a sexual harasser you’re not a man of good character.
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« Reply #101 on: November 16, 2017, 12:09:08 PM »

He should resign due to the fact that it would be a major distraction and irony on Dems when Moore, if elected (looks likely), gets to the Senate and they need to force a removal vote.

Schumer needs to give him "the talk" today.
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« Reply #102 on: November 16, 2017, 12:09:43 PM »

His actions today seem pretty good already. No resignation is necessary.
Sorry. No. Not with Roy Moore lurking around.

He needs to resign, but lets make a false equivalence here.
What false equivalence?

I am saying Roy Moore and Franken aren't comparable.

Franken should resign, but I don't want anyone to unintentionally conflate pedophilia with sexually harassment.
I worded that wrong. I meant Moore lurking around, as in him potentially getting into the Senate. Franken hanging around in the Senate presents bad optics if we truly want to get Doug Jones this seat.

Gotcha ya.

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« Reply #103 on: November 16, 2017, 12:10:08 PM »

Kirsten Gillibrand reacts:

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NEW: Gillibrand tells reporters the allegations against Franken are “deeply concerning,” says she believes the woman who accused him

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/931204194605895680

I mean, there’s a photo? You’d have to be extremely delusional to not believe her.
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« Reply #104 on: November 16, 2017, 12:10:31 PM »

It's deeply unfair to men of good character and/or people who are redeeming themselves that they resign just because of Roy Moore.
If you’re a sexual harasser you’re not a man of good character.
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« Reply #105 on: November 16, 2017, 12:10:33 PM »

I don’t get the points about Moore? Even if Moore didn’t exist, I would still say Franken ought to resign.
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« Reply #106 on: November 16, 2017, 12:11:37 PM »

Kirsten Gillibrand reacts:

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NEW: Gillibrand tells reporters the allegations against Franken are “deeply concerning,” says she believes the woman who accused him

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/931204194605895680

I mean, there’s a photo? You’d have to be extremely delusional to not believe her.

Yeah, she should call for his immediate resignation.
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« Reply #107 on: November 16, 2017, 12:12:40 PM »

It's deeply unfair to men of good character and/or people who are redeeming themselves that they resign just because of Roy Moore.
If you’re a sexual harasser you’re not a man of good character.

You can make a mistake and still be of good character. I'm not necessarily saying Franken's a good guy - I don't like him - but most men have made such mistakes in their lives. I'll bet many of your friends and family members have done similar things at times in their past.

As long as they apologize and endeavor to be better people, I see no reason why their lives should be destroyed.
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« Reply #108 on: November 16, 2017, 12:13:47 PM »

It's deeply unfair to men of good character and/or people who are redeeming themselves that they resign just because of Roy Moore.
If you’re a sexual harasser you’re not a man of good character.
Franken has been fighting for working families in the US Senate for 8 years, and shows signs of cleaning up his act. He deserves a chance.
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« Reply #109 on: November 16, 2017, 12:13:51 PM »

I don't know if I've ever been more glad that all three people representing me in Congress are women. That's not to say women can't or don't commit sexual assault, but something tells me Cantwell, Murray, and Jayapal would rank among the absolute least likely people in Congress to do something like this.
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« Reply #110 on: November 16, 2017, 12:13:59 PM »

When WaPo says your apology is underwhelming you're in trouble.
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« Reply #111 on: November 16, 2017, 12:14:28 PM »

It's deeply unfair to men of good character and/or people who are redeeming themselves that they resign just because of Roy Moore.
If you’re a sexual harasser you’re not a man of good character.

You can make a mistake and still be of good character. I'm not necessarily saying Franken's a good guy - I don't like him - but most men have made such mistakes in their lives. I'll bet many of your friends and family members have done similar things at times in their past.

As long as they apologize and endeavor to be better people, I see no reason why their lives should be destroyed.
These remain serious allegations, especially since there is HARD EVIDENCE (the photo)
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« Reply #112 on: November 16, 2017, 12:14:38 PM »

I don’t get the points about Moore? Even if Moore didn’t exist, I would still say Franken ought to resign.

If you are an "undecided" desperate for an excuse to vote Moore, this is a good opportunity to rationalize "both sides".
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« Reply #113 on: November 16, 2017, 12:14:52 PM »

Seems like Franken is posing in that picture, obviously knowing the image was going to be taken.
Almost like he thinks what he is doing is funny (probably the comedian side of him).
Regardless, what he did was extremely wrong and should not be in office.
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« Reply #114 on: November 16, 2017, 12:15:11 PM »

This is really sad.  He needs to resign.  The sad part is we will lose Franken, but Moore will win for sure now.  I hate this country.
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« Reply #115 on: November 16, 2017, 12:15:15 PM »

Sarah Palin was on Capitol hill today. When asked about Franken she (unsurprisingly) thinks he should step down. Silent on Moore... the one she literally campaigned with, in person.

https://twitter.com/eschor/status/931207077682442240
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« Reply #116 on: November 16, 2017, 12:16:40 PM »

I don’t get the points about Moore? Even if Moore didn’t exist, I would still say Franken ought to resign.
I agree, but I also think he probably wouldn’t (compared to what other prominent people are accused of, this sort of pales). Now I think it’s definite.

It's deeply unfair to men of good character and/or people who are redeeming themselves that they resign just because of Roy Moore.
If you’re a sexual harasser you’re not a man of good character.

You can make a mistake and still be of good character. I'm not necessarily saying Franken's a good guy - I don't like him - but most men have made such mistakes in their lives. I'll bet many of your friends and family members have done similar things at times in their past.
Bullshit. I’ve never made this kind of “mistake” because I don’t go around touching people whenever I feel like it because I have a healthy sense of boundaries.

And if many of my friends and family members have groped someone without their consent I’ll cut off contact from them.

It's deeply unfair to men of good character and/or people who are redeeming themselves that they resign just because of Roy Moore.
If you’re a sexual harasser you’re not a man of good character.
Franken has been fighting for working families in the US Senate for 8 years, and shows signs of cleaning up his act. He deserves a chance.
No, he doesn’t.

You’re talking to one of the biggest Franken fans here, too.
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« Reply #117 on: November 16, 2017, 12:17:14 PM »

It's deeply unfair to men of good character and/or people who are redeeming themselves that they resign just because of Roy Moore.
If you’re a sexual harasser you’re not a man of good character.

You can make a mistake and still be of good character. I'm not necessarily saying Franken's a good guy - I don't like him - but most men have made such mistakes in their lives. I'll bet many of your friends and family members have done similar things at times in their past.

As long as they apologize and endeavor to be better people, I see no reason why their lives should be destroyed.
These remain serious allegations, especially since there is HARD EVIDENCE (the photo)

The photo isn't even that bad. It was clearly done as an inappropriate joke, but it makes sense that the woman would be so upset by it because she was allegedly assaulted by Franken earlier. The kissing allegations are the bad part.
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« Reply #118 on: November 16, 2017, 12:18:53 PM »

Sarah Palin was on Capitol hill today. When asked about Franken she (unsurprisingly) thinks he should step down. Silent on Moore... the one she literally campaigned with, in person.

https://twitter.com/eschor/status/931207077682442240

lol, conservatives don't really care about sexual harassment.

No one should take their phony outrage seriously.
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« Reply #119 on: November 16, 2017, 12:19:18 PM »

And if many of my friends and family members have groped someone without their consent I’ll cut off contact from them.
Franken clearly did not "grope" in the photo - he made a joke about groping, which was inappropriate given the setting and the fact that the woman was actually sleeping. And if you think nobody you know has done similar, you are extremely naive.
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« Reply #120 on: November 16, 2017, 12:19:34 PM »

If he resigns I'm afraid who Dayton might appoint.  It's almost better for Murica if he stays.
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« Reply #121 on: November 16, 2017, 12:22:59 PM »

I think the only question is if he resigns or just doesn't run again in 2020. (I'd prefer he resigns to let the new Dem appointee get his/her sea legs and run with some incumbency)
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« Reply #122 on: November 16, 2017, 12:23:53 PM »
« Edited: November 16, 2017, 12:29:56 PM by TexasGurl »

And if many of my friends and family members have groped someone without their consent I’ll cut off contact from them.
Franken clearly did not "grope" in the photo - he made a joke about groping, which was inappropriate given the setting and the fact that the woman was actually sleeping. And if you think nobody you know has done similar, you are extremely naive.
Not just the photo.

And you need to reread the part of my post you quoted.
Keep it civil please.
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« Reply #123 on: November 16, 2017, 12:24:53 PM »

Republicans are really showing how much they don't give a damn about sexual assault or the victims. If they did, they wouldn't be cherrypicking which stories to believe based on party affiliation of the assaulter. Crocodile tears.
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« Reply #124 on: November 16, 2017, 12:24:58 PM »

Really, he should just resign right now and save himself the pain. I hope that his, and other people's career destruction serves as an example for young men today- let them see that if you sexually assault someone, you suffer for it.
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