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« Reply #150 on: November 16, 2017, 12:42:15 pm »

More and more Democrats are supporting the ethics investigation. My guess is Franken stays until that's over.

Aren't the Republicans going to turn any ethics probe into a total circus?

Safe bet. They'll probably throw in But Hillary's emails and Bill! just for safe measure.
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« Reply #151 on: November 16, 2017, 12:42:50 pm »

Kirsten Gillibrand reacts:

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NEW: Gillibrand tells reporters the allegations against Franken are “deeply concerning,” says she believes the woman who accused him

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/931204194605895680

Now this is a stock fake reaction if ive ever seen. He already admitted to doing it lol
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« Reply #152 on: November 16, 2017, 12:45:01 pm »

I could live with a senator Swanson.
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« Reply #153 on: November 16, 2017, 12:45:55 pm »

More and more Democrats are supporting the ethics investigation. My guess is Franken stays until that's over.

Aren't the Republicans going to turn any ethics probe into a total circus?

Bread and circuses.
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« Reply #154 on: November 16, 2017, 12:48:57 pm »

Anything short of Franken resigning today, before lunch, eliminates the Democrat moral high ground in the Roy Moore fiasco.
This.

Democrats: Unless you want a Senator who represents the toothless hillbilly coalition for 3 years, you'd better clean up this Franken mess post-haste.

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« Reply #155 on: November 16, 2017, 12:50:15 pm »

More and more Democrats are supporting the ethics investigation. My guess is Franken stays until that's over.

Aren't the Republicans going to turn any ethics probe into a total circus?

Safe bet. They'll probably throw in But Hillary's emails and Bill! just for safe measure.

I believe most ethics investigations are done in private.
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« Reply #156 on: November 16, 2017, 12:54:05 pm »

One thing is for sure .... I'm glad to see so many blue avatars posting and having "genuine" concern for sexual harassment/predatory issues.
Seemed so many were previously missing in "other" threads.
Strange how that happens.
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« Reply #157 on: November 16, 2017, 12:55:44 pm »

More and more Democrats are supporting the ethics investigation. My guess is Franken stays until that's over.

Aren't the Republicans going to turn any ethics probe into a total circus?

Safe bet. They'll probably throw in But Hillary's emails and Bill! just for safe measure.

I believe most ethics investigations are done in private.

Yeah, that's what I asking, although I worded it weirdly. Thanks.
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« Reply #158 on: November 16, 2017, 12:56:53 pm »

Franken released a new longer statement, calls for an ethics investigation against himself:



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« Reply #159 on: November 16, 2017, 12:59:06 pm »

So he's not going to resign. Sigh.
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« Reply #160 on: November 16, 2017, 01:00:47 pm »

So he's not going to resign. Sigh.

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« Reply #161 on: November 16, 2017, 01:04:04 pm »

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« Reply #162 on: November 16, 2017, 01:04:59 pm »

.@SenWhitehouse tells reporters: “You guys need to find something more interesting” when asked about Franken allegations.
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« Reply #163 on: November 16, 2017, 01:06:00 pm »

One thing is for sure .... I'm glad to see so many blue avatars posting and having "genuine" concern for sexual harassment/predatory issues.
Seemed so many were previously missing in "other" threads.
Strange how that happens.

Not surprise.

These people argue in bad faith all the time. They truly don't give a **** about all of this stuff. Democrats and liberals continue to play themselves by thinking these people are on the level.
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« Reply #164 on: November 16, 2017, 01:07:25 pm »

You know, I don't want to be the one saying this, but I'm really uncomfortable with the idea of somebody resigning before thing is even properly investigated. OK, there's some strong evidence here, but it's still a matter of principle. Being accused is not (and should not) the same as being convicted.
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« Reply #165 on: November 16, 2017, 01:07:39 pm »

It's deeply unfair to men of good character and/or people who are redeeming themselves that they resign just because of Roy Moore.
If you’re a sexual harasser you’re not a man of good character.
Franken has been fighting for working families in the US Senate for 8 years, and shows signs of cleaning up his act. He deserves a chance.

Roy Moore has been fighting for moral values in the Alabama supreme Court for years. He hasn't harassed women in a long time.

This is basically the point you're making.
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« Reply #166 on: November 16, 2017, 01:07:52 pm »

Kirsten Gillibrand reacts:

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NEW: Gillibrand tells reporters the allegations against Franken are “deeply concerning,” says she believes the woman who accused him

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/931204194605895680

Now this is a stock fake reaction if ive ever seen. He already admitted to doing it lol

He admitted to what he was caught doing in the picture, but has he admitted to anything more than that?  The allegations go beyond the picture.
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« Reply #167 on: November 16, 2017, 01:08:54 pm »

I'll add my voice to the resign chorus. But also, if there is an appointed replacement:



I mean, win-win-win.
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« Reply #168 on: November 16, 2017, 01:09:33 pm »

I've always thought Franken was a dick so this doesn't come as a surprise for me.

Note how virtually no one is defending Franken here, as opposed to the BS filling the Moore threads.
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« Reply #169 on: November 16, 2017, 01:10:23 pm »

.@SenWhitehouse tells reporters: “You guys need to find something more interesting” when asked about Franken allegations.

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« Reply #170 on: November 16, 2017, 01:11:11 pm »

You know, I don't want to be the one saying this, but I'm really uncomfortable with the idea of somebody resigning before thing is even properly investigated. OK, there's some strong evidence here, but it's still a matter of principle. Being accused is not (and should not) the same as being convicted.
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« Reply #171 on: November 16, 2017, 01:11:43 pm »

.@SenWhitehouse tells reporters: “You guys need to find something more interesting” when asked about Franken allegations.

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I must clarify: it appears @SenWhitehouse made this comment in passing *before* he was directly asked about the Franken allegations.

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« Reply #172 on: November 16, 2017, 01:11:59 pm »

More and more Democrats are supporting the ethics investigation. My guess is Franken stays until that's over.

Aren't the Republicans going to turn any ethics probe into a total circus?

Bread and circuses.
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« Reply #173 on: November 16, 2017, 01:13:48 pm »

It's deeply unfair to men of good character and/or people who are redeeming themselves that they resign just because of Roy Moore.
If you’re a sexual harasser you’re not a man of good character.
Franken has been fighting for working families in the US Senate for 8 years, and shows signs of cleaning up his act. He deserves a chance.

Roy Moore has been fighting for moral values in the Alabama supreme Court for years. He hasn't harassed women in a long time.

This is basically the point you're making.
His attitude has markedly differed from Moore's. I can't imagine Moore being this apologetic.
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« Reply #174 on: November 16, 2017, 01:17:43 pm »

So for an ethics probe, won't they be dragging this woman in front of the Senate?  If so, it seems like a bit more than she should have to go through, no?
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