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« Reply #150 on: November 16, 2017, 12:54:05 PM »

One thing is for sure .... I'm glad to see so many blue avatars posting and having "genuine" concern for sexual harassment/predatory issues.
Seemed so many were previously missing in "other" threads.
Strange how that happens.
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« Reply #151 on: November 16, 2017, 12:55:44 PM »

More and more Democrats are supporting the ethics investigation. My guess is Franken stays until that's over.

Aren't the Republicans going to turn any ethics probe into a total circus?

Safe bet. They'll probably throw in But Hillary's emails and Bill! just for safe measure.

I believe most ethics investigations are done in private.

Yeah, that's what I asking, although I worded it weirdly. Thanks.
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« Reply #152 on: November 16, 2017, 12:56:53 PM »

Franken released a new longer statement, calls for an ethics investigation against himself:



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« Reply #153 on: November 16, 2017, 12:59:06 PM »

So he's not going to resign. Sigh.
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« Reply #154 on: November 16, 2017, 01:00:47 PM »


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« Reply #155 on: November 16, 2017, 01:04:04 PM »

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« Reply #156 on: November 16, 2017, 01:04:59 PM »

.@SenWhitehouse tells reporters: “You guys need to find something more interesting” when asked about Franken allegations.
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« Reply #157 on: November 16, 2017, 01:06:00 PM »

One thing is for sure .... I'm glad to see so many blue avatars posting and having "genuine" concern for sexual harassment/predatory issues.
Seemed so many were previously missing in "other" threads.
Strange how that happens.

Not surprise.

These people argue in bad faith all the time. They truly don't give a **** about all of this stuff. Democrats and liberals continue to play themselves by thinking these people are on the level.
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« Reply #158 on: November 16, 2017, 01:07:25 PM »

You know, I don't want to be the one saying this, but I'm really uncomfortable with the idea of somebody resigning before thing is even properly investigated. OK, there's some strong evidence here, but it's still a matter of principle. Being accused is not (and should not) the same as being convicted.
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« Reply #159 on: November 16, 2017, 01:07:39 PM »

It's deeply unfair to men of good character and/or people who are redeeming themselves that they resign just because of Roy Moore.
If you’re a sexual harasser you’re not a man of good character.
Franken has been fighting for working families in the US Senate for 8 years, and shows signs of cleaning up his act. He deserves a chance.

Roy Moore has been fighting for moral values in the Alabama supreme Court for years. He hasn't harassed women in a long time.

This is basically the point you're making.
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« Reply #160 on: November 16, 2017, 01:07:52 PM »

Kirsten Gillibrand reacts:

Seung Min Kim @seungminkim
NEW: Gillibrand tells reporters the allegations against Franken are “deeply concerning,” says she believes the woman who accused him

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/931204194605895680

Now this is a stock fake reaction if ive ever seen. He already admitted to doing it lol

He admitted to what he was caught doing in the picture, but has he admitted to anything more than that?  The allegations go beyond the picture.
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« Reply #161 on: November 16, 2017, 01:08:54 PM »

I'll add my voice to the resign chorus. But also, if there is an appointed replacement:



I mean, win-win-win.
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« Reply #162 on: November 16, 2017, 01:09:33 PM »

I've always thought Franken was a dick so this doesn't come as a surprise for me.

Note how virtually no one is defending Franken here, as opposed to the BS filling the Moore threads.
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« Reply #163 on: November 16, 2017, 01:10:23 PM »

.@SenWhitehouse tells reporters: “You guys need to find something more interesting” when asked about Franken allegations.

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« Reply #164 on: November 16, 2017, 01:11:11 PM »

You know, I don't want to be the one saying this, but I'm really uncomfortable with the idea of somebody resigning before thing is even properly investigated. OK, there's some strong evidence here, but it's still a matter of principle. Being accused is not (and should not) the same as being convicted.
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« Reply #165 on: November 16, 2017, 01:11:43 PM »

.@SenWhitehouse tells reporters: “You guys need to find something more interesting” when asked about Franken allegations.

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DC reporters are so bad at their jobs.
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« Reply #166 on: November 16, 2017, 01:11:59 PM »

More and more Democrats are supporting the ethics investigation. My guess is Franken stays until that's over.

Aren't the Republicans going to turn any ethics probe into a total circus?

Bread and circuses.
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« Reply #167 on: November 16, 2017, 01:13:48 PM »
« Edited: November 16, 2017, 01:18:31 PM by Southern Deputy Speaker/National Archivist TimTurner »

It's deeply unfair to men of good character and/or people who are redeeming themselves that they resign just because of Roy Moore.
If you’re a sexual harasser you’re not a man of good character.
Franken has been fighting for working families in the US Senate for 8 years, and shows signs of cleaning up his act. He deserves a chance.

Roy Moore has been fighting for moral values in the Alabama supreme Court for years. He hasn't harassed women in a long time.

This is basically the point you're making.
His attitude has markedly differed from Moore's. I can't imagine Moore being this apologetic.
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« Reply #168 on: November 16, 2017, 01:17:43 PM »

So for an ethics probe, won't they be dragging this woman in front of the Senate?  If so, it seems like a bit more than she should have to go through, no?
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« Reply #169 on: November 16, 2017, 01:21:06 PM »

So for an ethics probe, won't they be dragging this woman in front of the Senate?  If so, it seems like a bit more than she should have to go through, no?

Got it all necessarily, Grumps. That's only if there is a dispute in their testimony, which they're clearly isn't.

They may give her the voluntary opportunity to appear as a victim impact statement as to how it is affected her, and get her two cents as to what should happen, but if she doesn't want to appear she won't need to I feel certain
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« Reply #170 on: November 16, 2017, 01:21:26 PM »

So for an ethics probe, won't they be dragging this woman in front of the Senate?  If so, it seems like a bit more than she should have to go through, no?
Tbf accomodations can be made, she went public already, and she at least should be allowed to refuse.
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« Reply #171 on: November 16, 2017, 01:23:52 PM »


Believe it or not, this effectively acts as a Lifeline for him. The fact that the Republican leader is calling for an Ethics investigation rather than resignation, twitch most, though probably not all, of his caucus will follow suit, it actually gives Franken and out as opposed to resignation. Frankly, he could probably be censured in the next several months in Survive election in three years.

Please understand I am making this post Shirley on the subject of whether he will resign, not whether it is the morally appropriate thing to do or not do.
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« Reply #172 on: November 16, 2017, 01:24:10 PM »

.@SenWhitehouse tells reporters: “You guys need to find something more interesting” when asked about Franken allegations.
Whitehouse should resign, too.
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« Reply #173 on: November 16, 2017, 01:24:29 PM »

So for an ethics probe, won't they be dragging this woman in front of the Senate?  If so, it seems like a bit more than she should have to go through, no?

Got it all necessarily, Grumps. That's only if there is a dispute in their testimony, which they're clearly isn't.

They may give her the voluntary opportunity to appear as a victim impact statement as to how it is affected her, and get her two cents as to what should happen, but if she doesn't want to appear she won't need to I feel certain

Ok, thanks.  Yeah being grilled by Senators in private isn't something anyone wants to go through.  Maybe she'll hire my heartthrob Gloria Allred.  Wink
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« Reply #174 on: November 16, 2017, 01:25:49 PM »

.@SenWhitehouse tells reporters: “You guys need to find something more interesting” when asked about Franken allegations.
Whitehouse should resign, too.

It was taken out of context.

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