IL-3 Dem Primary: Election Day!

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Can someone explain to me why Dan Lipinski is so bad?

Very Conservative Democrat in Safe D Chicago Region seat.

[Jeppe]

Can someone explain to me why Dan Lipinski is so bad?

Pro-life and anti-LGBT Democrat in a safe urban/suburban seat.

[Young Conservative]

Can someone explain to me why Dan Lipinski is so bad?

Very Conservative Democrat in Safe D Chicago Region seat.

>implying that makes him bad
 It is also worth noting, this district has always been very socially conservative. Dan Lipinski is by no means a conservative on economic issues (he endorsed Bernie sanders for President). He represents his constituents well and is a beacon of hope for a party that continually rejects the rights of the unborn.

[MarkD]

"A very conservative Democrat"? The American Conservative Union has given Dan Lipinski an average approval score of 19% for his votes in the House - years 2005 to 2016.

[Figueira]

Yes! Flawless Beautiful Kirsten needs to keep endorsing real Democrats!

[BuckeyeNut]

Yes! Flawless Beautiful Kirsten needs to keep endorsing real Democrats!

Gillibrand's a poseur, even if Lipinski needs to go.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I for one am very proud of Congressman Lipinski for his support of the unborn. He is also a dogged advocate for his constituents, an important voice regarding transportation issues, and a true freedom fighter. He deserves to have the seat for as long as he wants it.

[Zioneer]

I for one am very proud of Congressman Lipinski for his support of the unborn. He is also a dogged advocate for his constituents, an important voice regarding transportation issues, and a true freedom fighter. He deserves to have the seat for as long as he wants it.

He literally only has the seat because his dad pulled a trick to give it to him. He's a dynastic fool.

[Cactus Jack]

I for one am very proud of Congressman Lipinski for his support of the unborn. He is also a dogged advocate for his constituents, an important voice regarding transportation issues, and a true freedom fighter. He deserves to have the seat for as long as he wants it.

He literally only has the seat because his dad pulled a trick to give it to him. He's a dynastic fool.

Not to mention that Lipinski is hardly a "dogged advocate for his constituents" when his constituents are significantly to his left.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I for one am very proud of Congressman Lipinski for his support of the unborn. He is also a dogged advocate for his constituents, an important voice regarding transportation issues, and a true freedom fighter. He deserves to have the seat for as long as he wants it.

He literally only has the seat because his dad pulled a trick to give it to him.

Who cares

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I for one am very proud of Congressman Lipinski for his support of the unborn. He is also a dogged advocate for his constituents, an important voice regarding transportation issues, and a true freedom fighter. He deserves to have the seat for as long as he wants it.

He literally only has the seat because his dad pulled a trick to give it to him. He's a dynastic fool.

Not to mention that Lipinski is hardly a "dogged advocate for his constituents" when his constituents are significantly to his left.

Democratic district=/=massively socially liberal district

[Figueira]

I for one am very proud of Congressman Lipinski for his support of the unborn. He is also a dogged advocate for his constituents, an important voice regarding transportation issues, and a true freedom fighter. He deserves to have the seat for as long as he wants it.

He literally only has the seat because his dad pulled a trick to give it to him. He's a dynastic fool.

Not to mention that Lipinski is hardly a "dogged advocate for his constituents" when his constituents are significantly to his left.

Democratic district=/=massively socially liberal district

If they like Lipinski they are free to vote for him.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I for one am very proud of Congressman Lipinski for his support of the unborn. He is also a dogged advocate for his constituents, an important voice regarding transportation issues, and a true freedom fighter. He deserves to have the seat for as long as he wants it.

He literally only has the seat because his dad pulled a trick to give it to him. He's a dynastic fool.

Not to mention that Lipinski is hardly a "dogged advocate for his constituents" when his constituents are significantly to his left.

Democratic district=/=massively socially liberal district

If they like Lipinski they are free to vote for him.

Indeed, and vice versa. Thing is, in the past, he has won landslides in the primary again and again and again, VPH has spoke favorably about him, etc. So he is clearly doing something right.

[BuckeyeNut]

Yes! Flawless Beautiful Kirsten needs to keep endorsing real Democrats!

Gillibrand's a poseur, even if Lipinski needs to go.

I've always found it strange how Atlas as as a collective harps on and on about Gabbard being a phony (which is true) but thinks that Gillibrand's constant shape-shifting should be overlooked for some reason.

I, for one, value consistency.

[Figueira]

Yes! Flawless Beautiful Kirsten needs to keep endorsing real Democrats!

Gillibrand's a poseur, even if Lipinski needs to go.

I've always found it strange how Atlas as as a collective harps on and on about Gabbard being a phony (which is true) but thinks that Gillibrand's constant shape-shifting should be overlooked for some reason.

Because with Gillibrand it seems more likely that her current positions are close to her actual views. And there are other issues with Gabbard besides that.

[Keep cool-idge]

I for one am very proud of Congressman Lipinski for his support of the unborn. He is also a dogged advocate for his constituents, an important voice regarding transportation issues, and a true freedom fighter. He deserves to have the seat for as long as he wants it.

He literally only has the seat because his dad pulled a trick to give it to him. He's a dynastic fool.

Not to mention that Lipinski is hardly a "dogged advocate for his constituents" when his constituents are significantly to his left.

Democratic district=/=massively socially liberal district

If they like Lipinski they are free to vote for him.

Indeed, and vice versa. Thing is, in the past, he has won landslides in the primary again and again and again, VPH has spoke favorably about him, etc. So he is clearly doing something right.

All you said is why I endorsed him in both the primary and general election.

[Badger]

I for one am very proud of Congressman Lipinski for his support of the unborn. He is also a dogged advocate for his constituents, an important voice regarding transportation issues, and a true freedom fighter. He deserves to have the seat for as long as he wants it.

He literally only has the seat because his dad pulled a trick to give it to him. He's a dynastic fool.

Yes. Ideology aside I have always held Lipinski in extremely low regard because of this. He is a machine Pol through-and-through

[Landslide Lyndon]

The only reason Democrats tolerated Lipinski was because his district was full of Archie Bunker-like WWC voters who would bolt to the Republicans if a mainstream liberal replaced him on the ballot.
The fact that Trump performed even worse than Mitt effing Romney proves that this is no longer the case.

[Young Conservative]

The only reason Democrats tolerated Lipinski was because his district was full of Archie Bunker-like WWC voters who would bolt to the Republicans if a mainstream liberal replaced him on the ballot.
The fact that Trump performed even worse than Mitt effing Romney proves that this is no longer the case.

This is false. The district has a white majority but is incredibly diverse. It has a large, conservative polish population and socially conservative Hispanic population. A democrat would certainly win this district even if they are progressive, but that would not represent the district as well as Congressman Lipinski.

[Badger]

The only reason Democrats tolerated Lipinski was because his district was full of Archie Bunker-like WWC voters who would bolt to the Republicans if a mainstream liberal replaced him on the ballot.
The fact that Trump performed even worse than Mitt effing Romney proves that this is no longer the case.

This is false. The district has a white majority but is incredibly diverse. It has a large, conservative polish population and socially conservative Hispanic population. A democrat would certainly win this district even if they are progressive, but that would not represent the district as well as Congressman Lipinski.

Conservatives are still under the delusion that white Urban ethnics, let alone Hispanics, are socially conservative anymore. There may be a handful of regular Catholic Church attending Polish American voters who are probably the minority of Republicans in the district anyway. But those folks are dying off and being replaced by sons and daughters who oh, even if they still attend regularly, have very different views from the Catholic hierarchy on social issues.

Lipinski's big strength is simple incumbency name recognition and constituent service. People who may not know or care much about his position on abortion or gay rights, and wouldn't like his views at the new about it, still remember him as the guy who helped get that problem with their grandmother's social security check figure it out or a recommendation written for their nephew to West Point.

[VPH]

The only reason Democrats tolerated Lipinski was because his district was full of Archie Bunker-like WWC voters who would bolt to the Republicans if a mainstream liberal replaced him on the ballot.
The fact that Trump performed even worse than Mitt effing Romney proves that this is no longer the case.

This is false. The district has a white majority but is incredibly diverse. It has a large, conservative polish population and socially conservative Hispanic population. A democrat would certainly win this district even if they are progressive, but that would not represent the district as well as Congressman Lipinski.

Conservatives are still under the delusion that white Urban ethnics, let alone Hispanics, are socially conservative anymore. There may be a handful of regular Catholic Church attending Polish American voters who are probably the minority of Republicans in the district anyway. But those folks are dying off and being replaced by sons and daughters who oh, even if they still attend regularly, have very different views from the Catholic hierarchy on social issues.

Lipinski's big strength is simple incumbency name recognition and constituent service. People who may not know or care much about his position on abortion or gay rights, and wouldn't like his views at the new about it, still remember him as the guy who helped get that problem with their grandmother's social security check figure it out or a recommendation written for their nephew to West Point.

As somebody who interned in Lipinksi's office this summer, I can tell you firsthand, Lipinski's Congressional District has many socially conservative Polish, Irish, and Greek voters.

Lipinski is an effective Congressman both in constituent services and getting things done on the hill. Passes many amendments, an incredibly strong fighter for STEM education, big on the T&I committee. It's a shame to see the people who lament today's partisan polarization trying to throw out one of Congress' best bipartisan members.

[Illiniwek]

The only reason Democrats tolerated Lipinski was because his district was full of Archie Bunker-like WWC voters who would bolt to the Republicans if a mainstream liberal replaced him on the ballot.
The fact that Trump performed even worse than Mitt effing Romney proves that this is no longer the case.

This is false. The district has a white majority but is incredibly diverse. It has a large, conservative polish population and socially conservative Hispanic population. A democrat would certainly win this district even if they are progressive, but that would not represent the district as well as Congressman Lipinski.

Conservatives are still under the delusion that white Urban ethnics, let alone Hispanics, are socially conservative anymore. There may be a handful of regular Catholic Church attending Polish American voters who are probably the minority of Republicans in the district anyway. But those folks are dying off and being replaced by sons and daughters who oh, even if they still attend regularly, have very different views from the Catholic hierarchy on social issues.

Lipinski's big strength is simple incumbency name recognition and constituent service. People who may not know or care much about his position on abortion or gay rights, and wouldn't like his views at the new about it, still remember him as the guy who helped get that problem with their grandmother's social security check figure it out or a recommendation written for their nephew to West Point.

As somebody who interned in Lipinksi's office this summer, I can tell you firsthand, Lipinski's Congressional District has many socially conservative Polish, Irish, and Greek voters.

Lipinski is an effective Congressman both in constituent services and getting things done on the hill. Passes many amendments, an incredibly strong fighter for STEM education, big on the T&I committee. It's a shame to see the people who lament today's partisan polarization trying to throw out one of Congress' best bipartisan members.

Bingo

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Does anyone else in this thread have the first-hand experience of VPH on this matter? Anyone?

[Maxwell]

"A very conservative Democrat"? The American Conservative Union has given Dan Lipinski an average approval score of 19% for his votes in the House - years 2005 to 2016.

that's pretty friggin high for a Democrat in 2017.

[Young Conservative]

"A very conservative Democrat"? The American Conservative Union has given Dan Lipinski an average approval score of 19% for his votes in the House - years 2005 to 2016.

that's pretty friggin high for a Democrat in 2017.

Yeah, which is sad.