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Question: Read below
#1
Question 1: Yes
 
#2
Question 1: No
 
#3
Question 2: Yes
 
#4
Question 2: No
 
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Total Voters: 77

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Author Topic: Secession  (Read 2907 times)
politicallefty
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,247
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -3.87, S: -9.22

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« on: November 20, 2017, 11:22:53 AM »

Yes/Yes

To those voting no on the first, is that just with regards to unilateral secession?

1. No. I thought this was settled by Texas v. White, 1869. Discussions The Union between Texas and the nation "was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States."

I would agree that unilateral secession is in violation of the Constitution. However, could it not be reasoned that the people voting for an independence referendum are in fact voting for revolution? Otherwise, I would just say that it would require an Act of Congress to approve secession.
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politicallefty
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,247
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -3.87, S: -9.22

P P
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2017, 07:40:03 AM »

Were any of the 27 yes voters on question 1 supporters of the Confederate States seceding?

From a personal standpoint, I think the right of independence and self-determination of a people can only be determined with a fully free and fair election. If independence is based upon the subjugation and enslavement of an entire class of people, it should not be recognized. And of course, it was the Confederacy that fired upon the United States, not the other way around.
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