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« on: November 20, 2017, 11:09:43 AM »


The welfare state cannot sustain handing out benefits to people who won't work (assuming they are able) and continue to have kids. If they are able bodied and on welfare and want to have more kids they can get a job to support them.

As we are both in free-market economies that do not strive for (let alone offer) full-employment, and (in mine at least) most recipients of welfare benefits are the working poor, I'd have to question why you're assuming everyone is turning down work? I'm used to Thatcherites sporting D avatars (it makes sense) but your views don't sound socialist.

Personal experience. I know several people who are on government benefits who never look for work and have never worked in their lives, who continue to have multiple kids and keep receiving government benefits (that now extend to those new kids).

Furthermore, I never said everyone who receives benefits refuses to work, however (in my experience) there is a substantial portion who do turn down the option to work.

There should be a system of investigation that mandates that people who receive government benefits prove that they are either looking for work or enrolled in an education or job training program.

In my opinion benefits should extend only to the kids that they had when they began receiving benefits. If they cant afford to support the kids they had when they filed to receive benefits, the government shouldn't be asked to cover the cost of new kids that they know they can't afford to support (or else why would they be on benefits).



Personal experience has also shown how many jobs that have been taken for granted quickly vanish - so many of the major high-street employers that I grew up with have folded since the crash, leaving thousands unemployed and looking for work in an impossible jobs market. Are you trying to tell me people are expected to pay into a social security system for decades to be made unemployed for an extended amount of time through no fault of their own and unable to draw from that without being made to feel like parasites?


Speaking only from my knowledge of US welfare services I believe that so long as those on benefits can prove that they are looking for a job or are enrolled or planning to enroll in job training or education program they should unquestionably be allowed to keep those benefits.

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I am very sympathetic to those who wan't to have children but can't afford them due to not being able to find a job. However, good economic stewardship is part of the harsh reality we live in, and in a country with a $666 Billion deficit it would be economically reckless to allow benefit claimants to keep having multiple children.

I think this speaks for itself.
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2017, 11:13:12 AM »

The fact that he triggers resident socialists by calling himself a socialist (which he is obviously not) is rather amusing.
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2017, 01:19:58 PM »

The fact that he triggers resident socialists by calling himself a socialist (which he is obviously not) is rather amusing.

I’d been considering doing the same.
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2017, 01:27:28 PM »

The fact that he triggers resident socialists by calling himself a socialist (which he is obviously not) is rather amusing.

We used to have #Socialists4Christie here.
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2017, 02:20:37 PM »

I'm pretty sure he's a troll, and doesn't actually consider himself a socialist. that doesn't make him a HP though, so I'll say I feel pretty neutral about him.
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2017, 03:58:04 PM »

He'd be tolerable as a blue avatar.
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2017, 05:23:22 PM »

The fact that he triggers resident socialists by calling himself a socialist (which he is obviously not) is rather amusing.

I’d been considering doing the same.

I'm pretty sure that's what the actual Nazis did, so tread with caution.
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2017, 05:25:12 PM »

The fact that he triggers resident socialists by calling himself a socialist (which he is obviously not) is rather amusing.

I’d been considering doing the same.

I'm pretty sure that's what the actual Nazis did, so tread with caution.

Way to spoil the party.
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2017, 06:46:08 PM »

#AnarchoCommunistsforRauner
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2017, 07:52:20 PM »

Why is Scarlet turning into BRTD? Pretty soon she'll be talking about how hot feet are.
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