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Question: What would it be?
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<10%
 
#2
10-19%
 
#3
20-29%
 
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30-39%
 
#5
40-49%
 
#6
50%+
 
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IceSpear
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« on: November 20, 2017, 05:44:34 PM »

Let's say Trump decided to dissolve Congress and the Supreme Court, and installed himself as dictator. What would his approval rating be?

It's tempting to say option 1, but remember, him dissolving the government would be dismissed as "fake news" by many Trump supporters, and FOX News will spend all their time talking about imaginary Hillary scandals.

I'm saying upper 20s.
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2017, 05:45:26 PM »

Real dictators don't have <50% approval ratings...
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2017, 05:46:22 PM »

Real dictators don't have <50% approval ratings...

For the purposes of this poll we'll assume he doesn't (or didn't yet) crack down on the polling companies.
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2017, 06:15:53 PM »

Wouldn't it be around 99%, since people would have an, er, incentive to say they like him?
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2017, 06:37:52 PM »

All pollsters would be shutdown except for TRUMP polls, which show consistent 99.9% until Hillary Clinton is executed live, and then that number would move to 100%.

Real dictators don't have <50% approval ratings...

For the purposes of this poll we'll assume he doesn't (or didn't yet) crack down on the polling companies.

that's the first thing he would do, though.
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2017, 07:46:13 PM »

All pollsters would be shutdown except for TRUMP polls, which show consistent 99.9% until Hillary Clinton is executed live, and then that number would move to 100%.

Real dictators don't have <50% approval ratings...

For the purposes of this poll we'll assume he doesn't (or didn't yet) crack down on the polling companies.

that's the first thing he would do, though.

He'd probably be a bit more concerned with consolidating power first. Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2017, 08:15:59 PM »

Wouldn't it be around 99%, since people would have an, er, incentive to say they like him?
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2017, 09:48:14 PM »

I don't approve of him anyway, he's clearly a Democrat, not a Republican. The only Republican thing he's done has been to tomahawk Syria.

The United States would not exist under a dictator. If elections get canceled and the branches no longer exists, it's no longer the United States, it's something else, something horrible.
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2017, 10:17:50 PM »

I don't approve of him anyway, he's clearly a Democrat, not a Republican. The only Republican thing he's done has been to tomahawk Syria.

The United States would not exist under a dictator. If elections get canceled and the branches no longer exists, it's no longer the United States, it's something else, something horrible.
How is Trump close to a Democrat when his economic policies are much more similar to Reagan or Bush than Obama?
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2017, 11:33:05 PM »

Would this be after pigs fly or before Bernie becomes a Republican?
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2017, 11:55:31 PM »

Real dictators don't have <50% approval ratings...

For the purposes of this poll we'll assume he doesn't (or didn't yet) crack down on the polling companies.

Cracking down on the polling companies isn't the issue.

You get a call in the middle of the evening from a stranger saying "Do you approve of President-for-Life Trump, long may he reign, and his restoration of the Republic by seizing power away from the treacherous Democrats, corrupt bureaucrats, and elderly judges?"

Your response totally is "Yes, of course. Hail Trump!"
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2017, 02:02:01 AM »

Leave it to Atlas to obsess over the minutiae of "OMG how would we know his real approval rating in a dictatorship because the polling companies would get the guillotine", rather than just assuming OP is asking what his actual approval rating would be among the people based on internal/individual opinions.
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2017, 02:31:58 AM »

Mid 20's.
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2017, 01:16:59 PM »

Leave it to Atlas to obsess over the minutiae of "OMG how would we know his real approval rating in a dictatorship because the polling companies would get the guillotine", rather than just assuming OP is asking what his actual approval rating would be among the people based on internal/individual opinions.
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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2017, 01:36:35 PM »

Leave it to Atlas to obsess over the minutiae of "OMG how would we know his real approval rating in a dictatorship because the polling companies would get the guillotine", rather than just assuming OP is asking what his actual approval rating would be among the people based on internal/individual opinions.

In societies with authoritarian regimes, it is possible for the people to develop something akin to Stockholm Syndrome and become comfortable/indifferent/apathetic about their state of oppression, especially when combined with nationalist fervor. The Chinese government is generally very popular in China except for among some beleaguered minority groups.

Yes, talking about a crackdown on polling companies is silly and irrelevant, but it is perfectly reasonable to discuss how a dictatorial regime could actually be more popular than a democratic regime, especially if the majority basically retains its day-to-day civil liberties.
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« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2017, 02:44:52 PM »

Leave it to Atlas to obsess over the minutiae of "OMG how would we know his real approval rating in a dictatorship because the polling companies would get the guillotine", rather than just assuming OP is asking what his actual approval rating would be among the people based on internal/individual opinions.

In societies with authoritarian regimes, it is possible for the people to develop something akin to Stockholm Syndrome and become comfortable/indifferent/apathetic about their state of oppression, especially when combined with nationalist fervor. The Chinese government is generally very popular in China except for among some beleaguered minority groups.

Yes, talking about a crackdown on polling companies is silly and irrelevant, but it is perfectly reasonable to discuss how a dictatorial regime could actually be more popular than a democratic regime, especially if the majority basically retains its day-to-day civil liberties.

If Trump were savvier, he could pull this off quite well. Everyone hates Congress and views them as useless windbags. If he pulled off a coup that dissolved Congress and replaced it with a hand-selected group of sycophants, he probably could get away with that in describing it as a much-needed update to the Constitutional system...if he were popular and credible to begin with.

I think the last American President who would've had a credible shot at making himself a dictator, had he been so inclined, would've been FDR in his first term.
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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2017, 03:12:25 PM »

One approves of the Great and Infallible Leader -- or else!
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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2017, 04:00:48 PM »

Fox News/Breitbart would come up some story spinning his take over as a positive "because them minorities" and he'd easily maintain his ~35% approval rating with the same base he's always had, even with media scrutiny (whatever would be allowed).
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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2017, 07:59:43 PM »

Leave it to Atlas to obsess over the minutiae of "OMG how would we know his real approval rating in a dictatorship because the polling companies would get the guillotine", rather than just assuming OP is asking what his actual approval rating would be among the people based on internal/individual opinions.

In societies with authoritarian regimes, it is possible for the people to develop something akin to Stockholm Syndrome and become comfortable/indifferent/apathetic about their state of oppression, especially when combined with nationalist fervor. The Chinese government is generally very popular in China except for among some beleaguered minority groups.

Yes, talking about a crackdown on polling companies is silly and irrelevant, but it is perfectly reasonable to discuss how a dictatorial regime could actually be more popular than a democratic regime, especially if the majority basically retains its day-to-day civil liberties.

I'm asking what his approval would be immediately after this, not years/decades later.
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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2017, 08:00:54 PM »

Real dictators don't have <50% approval ratings...

For the purposes of this poll we'll assume he doesn't (or didn't yet) crack down on the polling companies.

Cracking down on the polling companies isn't the issue.

You get a call in the middle of the evening from a stranger saying "Do you approve of President-for-Life Trump, long may he reign, and his restoration of the Republic by seizing power away from the treacherous Democrats, corrupt bureaucrats, and elderly judges?"

Your response totally is "Yes, of course. Hail Trump!"

The majority of people in Iran polls said they wanted to be able to elect their Supreme Leader.
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« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2017, 08:48:59 PM »

I think a better question is "how?"
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« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2017, 11:35:13 AM »

110%
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« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2017, 12:16:27 PM »

All pollsters would be shutdown except for TRUMP polls, which show consistent 99.9% until Hillary Clinton is executed live, and then that number would move to 100%.

Real dictators don't have <50% approval ratings...

For the purposes of this poll we'll assume he doesn't (or didn't yet) crack down on the polling companies.

that's the first thing he would do, though.

He'd probably be a bit more concerned with consolidating power first. Tongue

why? he's incredibly vain and cares so deeply about POLLS.
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« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2017, 04:46:29 PM »

..became? Isn't he already?
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« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2017, 04:50:14 PM »


No. At the moment he's merely a dicktator.
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