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« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2017, 02:20:43 AM »

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« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2017, 05:27:13 PM »

I don't want to sound like a literal trot, but the NYTR would conclude that wouldn't they? It's in their interests (as a mouthpiece of the elite) to disorient and sectarianise the working-class.

Except for the part where they ran a story about factory closure that was incredibly sympathetic to the working class.

The media always sympathize with the working class for some stupid reason. They talk about factory closing, housing prices, the tactics of "evil" banks, and other crap that makes the working class feel like they're oppressed and have no way out.

I'd assume that it's probably because the media consists of a lot of communists, and they want to drive this "poor vs. rich" sorta struggle.

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« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2017, 05:41:17 PM »

I don't want to sound like a literal trot, but the NYTR would conclude that wouldn't they? It's in their interests (as a mouthpiece of the elite) to disorient and sectarianise the working-class.

Except for the part where they ran a story about factory closure that was incredibly sympathetic to the working class.

The media always sympathize with the working class for some stupid reason. They talk about factory closing, housing prices, the tactics of "evil" banks, and other crap that makes the working class feel like they're oppressed and have no way out.

I'd assume that it's probably because the media consists of a lot of communists, and they want to drive this "poor vs. rich" sorta struggle.


Who are you, Joe McCarthy?
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« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2017, 06:16:19 PM »

I don't want to sound like a literal trot, but the NYTR would conclude that wouldn't they? It's in their interests (as a mouthpiece of the elite) to disorient and sectarianise the working-class.

Except for the part where they ran a story about factory closure that was incredibly sympathetic to the working class.

The media always sympathize with the working class for some stupid reason. They talk about factory closing, housing prices, the tactics of "evil" banks, and other crap that makes the working class feel like they're oppressed and have no way out.

I'd assume that it's probably because the media consists of a lot of communists, and they want to drive this "poor vs. rich" sorta struggle.


Who are you, Joe McCarthy?

Not literally, but I see how you could make an argument that I'm the reincarnation.
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« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2017, 06:29:25 PM »

Either consciously or unconsciously? Something I (a McMullin voter) felt after the election about (a lot, not all) Trump supporters who have hijacked the Republican party:

A lot of them are white men from the damn north states like Ohio and Michigan, who are bitter because daddy and granddaddy's job doesn't exist anymore and will never ever come back, because the policies they loved so much in those damn north states have killed whatever remained of their job that hasn't been taken by technology, and the jobs moved south to the Old Confederacy, but instead of:

A. Getting retrained and and getting a better job
B. Moving to the south and trying to get back their old job
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C. Biting the bullet and getting a job at McDonalds or Radioshack that doesn't pay $50000000(hyperbole) an hour like they were apparently used to

they decided to go on food stamps, welfare, complain about the "elite" and minorities, while not realizing that now the "elite" are the ones paying their bills, and they turned it into a lifestyle where they just complain on and on about how their problems are everyone's fault but their own.

Is this accurate in any way or not?


I’m a minority and I would agree that white Trump voters in northern states are entitled to a good job, as are all working class folks. We’ve been through the whole retraining debate before and pointed out it’s shortcomings. Yes it’s been the elites who have been the problem, for callously disregarding people’s livelihoods in the name of capitalism. I’m no socialist, but when the average income hasn’t increased by much in 40 years, while per capita GDP has, we’ve got a problem. The American people aren’t getting back the productivity we put in. So screw those elites, and the members of both parties who hold them up. What we also need is to get the corrupting influence of big money out of politics so we can restore democracy.
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« Reply #30 on: November 24, 2017, 10:26:42 PM »

I don't want to sound like a literal trot, but the NYTR would conclude that wouldn't they? It's in their interests (as a mouthpiece of the elite) to disorient and sectarianise the working-class.

Trump was right; journalists are enemies of The People.
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« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2017, 01:10:26 AM »

Sorry to disappoint the neo-cons in the room, but most Trump voters have been Republicans or they at least voted for Romney. It's not that they all of a sudden started supporting Trump, some did but 95% didn't. My maternal side has been Republican since 1860 and they still are today and my father has been a Republican since he could vote. They all voted for Trump and still enthusiastically support him.
No. Every Trump voter was a poor unemployed white guy with no degree. His best income group was those under $30,000 and he lost whites with degrees in a landslide. (end sarcasm)

So, you support a failing economic model that is leading to declining living standards - and rather than recognise that this economic model is making people's lives worse, you would rather just blame them for what you erroneously perceive as being their own failures?

Nah mate, that's messed up
Telling people whose communities have been destroyed that they're privileged and entitled isn't exactly going to make them like and vote for you. No wonder Trump and Bernie had success against Clinton and the GOP establishment in the Rust Belt.
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