Donald Trump and Roy Moore

[Storebought]

I don't see what Trump has to gain by leaving Moore to twist in the wind: irrespective of any personal shortcomings, Moore would be Trump's strongest ally in the Senate. That's all that matters.

Trump should just fly to Alabama for yet another runway campaign stop and embrace Roy Moore while he's there. With Trump's visible support, Moore will win by a much stronger margin than what the polls are showing now and thereby frighten the GOP senate leadership from any attempt at his expulsion.

Moore is a loose cannon. Trump said one of the reasons he backed Strange was because he was an automatic yes vote on anything he wanted.

That was a good reason for choosing Strange then, but that is water under the bridge now.

I still think keeping Moore hands-off is foolish for Trump (and the GOP leadership) unless he thinks that Moore can win without his visible support -- which, in fact, would make Moore even more obstreperous when he is elected. In return for a sure(r) vote in the senate, Trump should fly to Alabama and stump for Moore. 

[Orthogonian Society Treasurer]

Trump just heard someone say "Big Luther" and thought it would be more fun to Tweet.

The Chad Luther and the Virgin Roy.

[tschandler]

I don't see what Trump has to gain by leaving Moore to twist in the wind: irrespective of any personal shortcomings, Moore would be Trump's strongest ally in the Senate. That's all that matters.

Trump should just fly to Alabama for yet another runway campaign stop and embrace Roy Moore while he's there. With Trump's visible support, Moore will win by a much stronger margin than what the polls are showing now and thereby frighten the GOP senate leadership from any attempt at his expulsion.

Moore is a loose cannon. Trump said one of the reasons he backed Strange was because he was an automatic yes vote on anything he wanted.

Stop insulting loose cannons.

[IceSpear]

I don't see what Trump has to gain by leaving Moore to twist in the wind: irrespective of any personal shortcomings, Moore would be Trump's strongest ally in the Senate. That's all that matters.

Trump should just fly to Alabama for yet another runway campaign stop and embrace Roy Moore while he's there. With Trump's visible support, Moore will win by a much stronger margin than what the polls are showing now and thereby frighten the GOP senate leadership from any attempt at his expulsion.

Moore is a loose cannon. Trump said one of the reasons he backed Strange was because he was an automatic yes vote on anything he wanted.

Stop insulting loose cannons.

Yeah, good point. At least loose cannons don't try to molest kids.

[HisGrace]

If Moore does lose, I'm sure Trump will talk about how Strange could have won.

Strange would have won with no problems, it's Alabama. If Moore loses it's 100% on him (although I think he'll still win easily).

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I don't see what Trump has to gain by leaving Moore to twist in the wind: irrespective of any personal shortcomings, Moore would be Trump's strongest ally in the Senate. That's all that matters.

Trump should just fly to Alabama for yet another runway campaign stop and embrace Roy Moore while he's there. With Trump's visible support, Moore will win by a much stronger margin than what the polls are showing now and thereby frighten the GOP senate leadership from any attempt at his expulsion.

Moore is a loose cannon. Trump said one of the reasons he backed Strange was because he was an automatic yes vote on anything he wanted.

Yes, that calculation makes sense. The Senate is full of Republicans from the right and center who vote nay as means of grand standing. Trump didn't want another Rand Paul, Ted Cruz or John McCain. He wanted someone who will keep his mouth shut and vote yes.

[Fuzzy Bear]

I don't see what Trump has to gain by leaving Moore to twist in the wind: irrespective of any personal shortcomings, Moore would be Trump's strongest ally in the Senate. That's all that matters.

Trump should just fly to Alabama for yet another runway campaign stop and embrace Roy Moore while he's there. With Trump's visible support, Moore will win by a much stronger margin than what the polls are showing now and thereby frighten the GOP senate leadership from any attempt at his expulsion.

Moore is a loose cannon. Trump said one of the reasons he backed Strange was because he was an automatic yes vote on anything he wanted.

Yes, that calculation makes sense. The Senate is full of Republicans from the right and center who vote nay as means of grand standing. Trump didn't want another Rand Paul, Ted Cruz or John McCain. He wanted someone who will keep his mouth shut and vote yes.

Perhaps Trump can persuade Strange to resign, at which time AL Gov Kay Ivey appoints Sessions (or anybody else) to his old seat.  This creates a new vacancy, and (perhaps) a new Special Election, where Moore would have to start from scratch in the electoral process.

[Storebought]

It's almost like someone in the White House somehow read my post:

Trump all but endorses Roy Moore

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[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

There's something unusual about the way Donald Trump has treated Roy Moore. Trump never shies away from controversy, and yet, AFAIK, hasn't said or tweeted anything about the news in Alabama. Furthermore, Trump initially endorsed Strange over Moore, despite Moore seemingly being the more "Trumpist" candidate of the two, and very much in line with Trump's favorite guys like Joe Arpaio.

Anyways, I guess what I'm asking is - what is the relationship between these two on a personal level? More specifically, did Trump know something beforehand that told him to keep Moore at arm's length, even if it wasn't anything specific that we know now?

It's almost like someone in the White House somehow read my post:

Trump all but endorses Roy Moore

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Obviously, someone finally got around to telling the Moron-in-Chief about about Moore predilection for pedophilia and sexual assault.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Ari Fleischer‏Verified account
@AriFleischer
 8m8 minutes ago
 
To anyone critical of Trump believing Moore, pls see what Rep. Clyburn said re Conyers:  Clyburn said he was not sure the claims “have any real substance. You can’t jump to conclusions with these types of things. For all I know, all of this could be made up.” (Source: NYT)

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Ari Fleischer‏Verified account
@AriFleischer
 8m8 minutes ago
 
To anyone critical of Trump believing Moore, pls see what Rep. Clyburn said re Conyers:  Clyburn said he was not sure the claims “have any real substance. You can’t jump to conclusions with these types of things. For all I know, all of this could be made up.” (Source: NYT)

And this is why, from a tactical perspective, the left needs to have no tolerance or excuses for our own on this issue. Excusing sexual assault CANNOT become 'both sides do it'.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Ari Fleischer‏Verified account
@AriFleischer
 8m8 minutes ago
 
To anyone critical of Trump believing Moore, pls see what Rep. Clyburn said re Conyers:  Clyburn said he was not sure the claims “have any real substance. You can’t jump to conclusions with these types of things. For all I know, all of this could be made up.” (Source: NYT)

And this is why, from a tactical perspective, the left needs to have no tolerance or excuses for our own on this issue. Excusing sexual assault CANNOT become 'both sides do it'.

Absolutely correct but they're teetering with the way Franken, especially, is being handled.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Ari Fleischer‏Verified account
@AriFleischer
 8m8 minutes ago
 
To anyone critical of Trump believing Moore, pls see what Rep. Clyburn said re Conyers:  Clyburn said he was not sure the claims “have any real substance. You can’t jump to conclusions with these types of things. For all I know, all of this could be made up.” (Source: NYT)

And this is why, from a tactical perspective, the left needs to have no tolerance or excuses for our own on this issue. Excusing sexual assault CANNOT become 'both sides do it'.

Absolutely correct but they're teetering with the way Franken, especially, is being handled.

I don't know what to think about Franken's case.

Conyers, on the other hand, is flat-out sexual harassment, documented, and a settlement reached.  There's no gray area there. 

I lost all respect for Clyburn, and, pretty much, all respect for the Black Caucus.  None of these folks have anything credible to say about Trump, or anyone else, at this point.