Trump Voter: If Jesus said Trump was with Russia, I wouldn’t believe Him

[Inmate Trump]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/11/21/trump_voter_if_jesus_christ_came_down_from_the_cross_and_told_me_trump_was_with_russia_i_wouldnt_believe_him.html

"Let me tell you," he continued. "If Jesus Christ gets down off the cross and told me Trump is with Russia, I would tell him, hold on a second, I need to check with the president if it is true. That is how confident I feel in the president."

[Inmate Trump]

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While I voted for Trump, I never asked anyone else to.  I do agree with Erick Erickson in this article on the aspect of the effect Trump has had on the Body of Christ.  I've seen it.  Trump's not likely a Believer, and his sins are what they are.

To vote for Trump in the privacy of the voting booth is one thing.  To endorse voting for him to the point of asking others to vote for him is another thing.  But Trump is not a God.  I trust Jesus to bring revival and moral renewal to America.  It's not inaccurate to say that Trump (along with Hillary, but in a different way) is part of the problem here.  Trump was, IMO, a better choice than Hillary in 2016, but I'm not going to pretend that he's a model of Christian virtue or God's anointed candidate.  It is withing the permissive will of God to vote for Donald Trump (or for Hillary Clinton, for that matter), but Trump needs Jesus as much as I do, and he probably needs a Pastor he'll listen to that won't lie to him or be awestruck by Trump's celebrity.  And any Christian who'd trust Trump over Jesus is, frankly, no longer a Christian; they fall into the category of "twice dead" as per the book of Jude.  "He who, having set his hand to the plow, looking back, is not fit for the Kingdom of God."  Looking at Trump and not Jesus is looking back.

There is literally no conceivable way that I, as a Christian, could vote for Trump.  He is the antithesis of every one of Jesus’s teachings. Not only that, but he’s the antithesis of what it means to be an American. Evangelicals didn’t vote on their beliefs and morals in 2016; they voted the way they did based on an illogical and unfounded fear and hatred of Hillary Clinton and Democrats in general.

You can make the argument that Hillary was not an ideal choice either for a Christian voter; and that neither of them may actually be Christians themselves. But you had one candidate who consistently showed himself to be anti Christian (in words and action) and another candidate who displayed at least some aspects of Christian behavior (in words and action). Regardless of party and ideology, why would you, as a Christian, pick the candidate who displayed no aspects of Christianity and had a constant disregard for the teachings of Jesus Christ?

[Inmate Trump]

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While I voted for Trump, I never asked anyone else to.  I do agree with Erick Erickson in this article on the aspect of the effect Trump has had on the Body of Christ.  I've seen it.  Trump's not likely a Believer, and his sins are what they are.

To vote for Trump in the privacy of the voting booth is one thing.  To endorse voting for him to the point of asking others to vote for him is another thing.  But Trump is not a God.  I trust Jesus to bring revival and moral renewal to America.  It's not inaccurate to say that Trump (along with Hillary, but in a different way) is part of the problem here.  Trump was, IMO, a better choice than Hillary in 2016, but I'm not going to pretend that he's a model of Christian virtue or God's anointed candidate.  It is withing the permissive will of God to vote for Donald Trump (or for Hillary Clinton, for that matter), but Trump needs Jesus as much as I do, and he probably needs a Pastor he'll listen to that won't lie to him or be awestruck by Trump's celebrity.  And any Christian who'd trust Trump over Jesus is, frankly, no longer a Christian; they fall into the category of "twice dead" as per the book of Jude.  "He who, having set his hand to the plow, looking back, is not fit for the Kingdom of God."  Looking at Trump and not Jesus is looking back.

There is literally no conceivable way that I, as a Christian, could vote for Trump.  He is the antithesis of every one of Jesus’s teachings. Not only that, but he’s the antithesis of what it means to be an American. Evangelicals didn’t vote on their beliefs and morals in 2016; they voted the way they did based on an illogical and unfounded fear and hatred of Hillary Clinton and Democrats in general.

You can make the argument that Hillary was not an ideal choice either for a Christian voter; and that neither of them may actually be Christians themselves. But you had one candidate who consistently showed himself to be anti Christian (in words and action) and another candidate who displayed at least some aspects of Christian behavior (in words and action). Regardless of party and ideology, why would you, as a Christian, pick the candidate who displayed no aspects of Christianity and had a constant disregard for the teachings of Jesus Christ?

Because popular ethnic "Evangelical " Christianity isn't Christianity?

It's true, sadly.

These are the people voting for someone who is anti-Christian (Trump).  These are the same people who wore "Trump that bitch" t-shirts, and who chanted "lock her up!" all the while ignoring people on their side who did the exact same things and worse.  These are the people getting butthurt over statues memorializing traitors to the nation, and praising what those traitors stood for.  These are the people willing to vote for a pedophile simply for the fact that he's not a Democrat.  These are the same people who think "grab em by the pussy" is just locker room talk.

These people cause real Christians to get a bad rap.  They believe Christians are being persecuted; yet in many places where Christian persecution exists (it's rarer than they believe, but it does exist), they would rather bar travel for their brothers and sisters in Christ to safer countries.

Trump could declare himself God and they would worship him as such, and find new ways to incorporate him into their religion as though he's always been apart of it, because he's a deity.  They are deranged.  They are insane.  They are not patriotic.  They are not Christians.  They will be the downfall of us all if we don't do a better job of weeding them out with our votes.

Hillary Clinton is a lot of things, and she was a horrible candidate.  But we would not be discussing things so crude and irreligious as "if Jesus came down from the cross and said ___, I would have to ask the president first."  We would not be on the brink of nuclear war.  We would not be barring travel to those in need.  She is far more Christian in her policies than Trump is, and even non-Christians can see that.

I say if you voted for Trump, and claim you are a Christian, you are either not, or you are extremely careless with your beliefs, your morals, and your politics.

[Inmate Trump]

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While I voted for Trump, I never asked anyone else to.  I do agree with Erick Erickson in this article on the aspect of the effect Trump has had on the Body of Christ.  I've seen it.  Trump's not likely a Believer, and his sins are what they are.

To vote for Trump in the privacy of the voting booth is one thing.  To endorse voting for him to the point of asking others to vote for him is another thing.  But Trump is not a God.  I trust Jesus to bring revival and moral renewal to America.  It's not inaccurate to say that Trump (along with Hillary, but in a different way) is part of the problem here.  Trump was, IMO, a better choice than Hillary in 2016, but I'm not going to pretend that he's a model of Christian virtue or God's anointed candidate.  It is withing the permissive will of God to vote for Donald Trump (or for Hillary Clinton, for that matter), but Trump needs Jesus as much as I do, and he probably needs a Pastor he'll listen to that won't lie to him or be awestruck by Trump's celebrity.  And any Christian who'd trust Trump over Jesus is, frankly, no longer a Christian; they fall into the category of "twice dead" as per the book of Jude.  "He who, having set his hand to the plow, looking back, is not fit for the Kingdom of God."  Looking at Trump and not Jesus is looking back.

There is literally no conceivable way that I, as a Christian, could vote for Trump.  He is the antithesis of every one of Jesus’s teachings. Not only that, but he’s the antithesis of what it means to be an American. Evangelicals didn’t vote on their beliefs and morals in 2016; they voted the way they did based on an illogical and unfounded fear and hatred of Hillary Clinton and Democrats in general.

You can make the argument that Hillary was not an ideal choice either for a Christian voter; and that neither of them may actually be Christians themselves. But you had one candidate who consistently showed himself to be anti Christian (in words and action) and another candidate who displayed at least some aspects of Christian behavior (in words and action). Regardless of party and ideology, why would you, as a Christian, pick the candidate who displayed no aspects of Christianity and had a constant disregard for the teachings of Jesus Christ?

Because popular ethnic "Evangelical " Christianity isn't Christianity?

It's true, sadly.

These are the people voting for someone who is anti-Christian (Trump).  These are the same people who wore "Trump that bitch" t-shirts, and who chanted "lock her up!" all the while ignoring people on their side who did the exact same things and worse.  These are the people getting butthurt over statues memorializing traitors to the nation, and praising what those traitors stood for.  These are the people willing to vote for a pedophile simply for the fact that he's not a Democrat.  These are the same people who think "grab em by the pussy" is just locker room talk.

These people cause real Christians to get a bad rap.  They believe Christians are being persecuted; yet in many places where Christian persecution exists (it's rarer than they believe, but it does exist), they would rather bar travel for their brothers and sisters in Christ to safer countries.

Trump could declare himself God and they would worship him as such, and find new ways to incorporate him into their religion as though he's always been apart of it, because he's a deity.  They are deranged.  They are insane.  They are not patriotic.  They are not Christians.  They will be the downfall of us all if we don't do a better job of weeding them out with our votes.

Hillary Clinton is a lot of things, and she was a horrible candidate.  But we would not be discussing things so crude and irreligious as "if Jesus came down from the cross and said ___, I would have to ask the president first."  We would not be on the brink of nuclear war.  We would not be barring travel to those in need.  She is far more Christian in her policies than Trump is, and even non-Christians can see that.

I say if you voted for Trump, and claim you are a Christian, you are either not, or you are extremely careless with your beliefs, your morals, and your politics.

“Brothers and sisters, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against a brother or sister or judges them speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it. There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you—who are you to judge your neighbor?” - James 4:12

Absolutely.

And I have to work on that.

The Bible also has several verses about correcting your brother if he does wrong. Supporting Trump is going against the faith itself.

[Inmate Trump]

Yuou think we would have a Rwanda if something happened to Trump?

"Have a Rwanda" in the sense of massive civil war and genocide, or in the sense of the US goverment ignoring it and casually going about their business as if nothing was happening?

Either way, the answer is probably yes.

Hell, once Trump reaches the normal two-term limit, we'll probably have a civil war.

It wouldn’t really be that surprising tbh.

Polls already show that conservatives favor postponing the next election and also that if hardcore proof was found that Trump colluded with Russia, they would keep supporting him.  It’s mind boggling, this mentality.

If the person I voted for did something like this, there’s no way I would continue to support them.