Heinrich/Kander 2020 would be a winning ticket for Democrats

[Suburbia]

No baggage. A presidential ticket with New Mexico Senator Martin Heinrich and former Missouri Secretary of State Jason Kander would be a baggageless, smart ticket. Yes, two white males is probably not what the Democrats want in today's identity politics era, but they would be formidable against President Donald Trump.

Elizabeth Warren? Too much baggage and a Northeastern liberal.
Joe Biden? Has his time past as former VP?

Heinrich/Kander could be the choice.

[tosk]

take out kander for anyone else. he might be a cabinet choice but not vp. probably better candidates than heinrich, I don't think he has the ambition. but assuming he does, he's got about as good a chance as anyone else in the primary. as far as the general election he'd probably fall under "generic democrat" polling

[History505]

This Kander guy is too overrated on here. If he runs, won't get far.

[Holmes]

Heinrich would be a strong candidate, but he's not well known. He would need to quickly raise his profile in a crowded primary, which is not the easiest thing to do. He would be a good VP to a female candidate, though.

[libertpaulian]

What in the hell is it with this forum's Kander obsession?  He LOST in a federal race in what should have been a strong Democratic year.

[Rookie Yinzer]

The Democratic nominee will be a woman.

He would be a good VP to a female candidate, though.

This.

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

Replace Kander with almost anyone else and it would be.

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

What in the hell is it with this forum's Kander obsession?  He LOST in a federal race in what should have been a strong Democratic year.

Kander only lost by 4% to an incumbent senator when Hillary lost the state by over 15%....

I don't get why people keep on wanting to say Kander's result was anything less than impressive. It's like they are in total denial lol.

That said, he really should be a Governor or Senate before being anywhere near the presidential ticket.

[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

Kander is incredibly underrated here, but I digress. I don't believe the ticket would (or should) be two White men, but I do like both of these people enough to potentially actively support them

[henster]

Heinrich/Gillibrand or Heinrich/Duckworth. Unfortunately, Heinrich has been virtually invisible since he has taken office, no buzz what so ever.

[junior chįmp]

Heinrich has no chance but Lander may very well be the first Millennial president

[Sestak]

What in the hell is it with this forum's Kander obsession?  He LOST in a federal race in what should have been a strong Democratic year.

Show me another non-incumbent Democrat who outperformed Hillary by 16 points in Middle America?

Kander only lost because of Trump having MASSIVE coattails in Missouri.

[Lechasseur]

What in the hell is it with this forum's Kander obsession?  He LOST in a federal race in what should have been a strong Democratic year.

Show me another non-incumbent Democrat who outperformed Hillary by 16 points in Middle America?

Kander only lost because of Trump having MASSIVE coattails in Missouri.

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Heinrich has no chance but Lander may very well be the first Millennial president

I think you meant Kander, I honestly agree but he has to run for another office first, but I really could see him being elected say in 2028 or in the 2030s if he manages to become a governor or senator first. 2020 is too early for him though I think

[bagelman]

Eh, this ticket would be mediocre but passable in the general. 

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

What in the hell is it with this forum's Kander obsession?  He LOST in a federal race in what should have been a strong Democratic year.

Show me another non-incumbent Democrat who outperformed Hillary by 16 points in Middle America?

Kander only lost because of Trump having MASSIVE coattails in Missouri.

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Heinrich has no chance but Lander may very well be the first Millennial president

I think you meant Kander, I honestly agree but he has to run for another office first, but I really could see him being elected say in 2028 or in the 2030s if he manages to become a governor or senator first. 2020 is too early for him though I think

I'm of the belief that if we're saying it's "too soon" for someone to run, then it's probably the perfect time for them. Better to be too soon and, at worse, get your name out there for a second shot down the line than wait until some new young thing replaces you.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Would actually be in favor of this if Heinrich wasn't a cosponsor of Medicare for All. Make it Kander/Heinrich and I'd vote for it though. Either would be fine running mates for Klobuchar/M. Obama/C. Kennedy.

[GoTfan]

Would actually be in favor of this if Heinrich wasn't a cosponsor of Medicare for All. Make it Kander/Heinrich and I'd vote for it though. Either would be fine running mates for Klobuchar/M. Obama/C.K Kennedy.

Oh yeah. I keep forgetting that providing universal healthcare is socialist, communist, anti-American, etc.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Would actually be in favor of this if Heinrich wasn't a cosponsor of Medicare for All. Make it Kander/Heinrich and I'd vote for it though. Either would be fine running mates for Klobuchar/M. Obama/C. Kennedy.

Oh yeah. I keep forgetting that providing universal healthcare is socialist, communist, anti-American, etc.

It's a very important thing to remember. Once you accept the destruction of the entire health insurance industry for everyone via Sanders's bill, you accept the eventual destruction of all other private industry.

[Mister Mets]

Heinrich seems like a generic Senator, who has yet to see himself as a national figure.

Kander is becoming one of the party's experts on voting rights, and is an excellent candidate, but his lack of conventional qualifications would be a bad look on a ticket with two white guys.

[WestVegeta]

No baggage. A presidential ticket with New Mexico Senator Martin Heinrich and former Missouri Secretary of State Jason Kander would be a baggageless, smart ticket. Yes, two white males is probably not what the Democrats want in today's identity politics era, but they would be formidable against President Donald Trump.

Elizabeth Warren? Too much baggage and a Northeastern liberal.
Joe Biden? Has his time past as former VP?

Heinrich/Kander could be the choice.

Here's my shameless Heinrich TL plug, although, I don't have Kander planned as his VP https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=277584.0

[junior chįmp]

What in the hell is it with this forum's Kander obsession?  He LOST in a federal race in what should have been a strong Democratic year.

Show me another non-incumbent Democrat who outperformed Hillary by 16 points in Middle America?

Kander only lost because of Trump having MASSIVE coattails in Missouri.

This

Heinrich has no chance but Lander may very well be the first Millennial president

I think you meant Kander, I honestly agree but he has to run for another office first, but I really could see him being elected say in 2028 or in the 2030s if he manages to become a governor or senator first. 2020 is too early for him though I think

If I remember correctly....Kander was the first Millennial elected to a state legislature. Although, currently his electoral wins are not that impressive....he has great potential

[Suburbia]

A democratic ticket without a female on it would be a terrible decision and likely depress turnout when females have been pivotal in the elections since 2016.  And don't tell me "I don't care about gender; I just want the two best candidates for the job" and then suggest such a weak ticket like this (no-name Senator who hasn't been able to build a national profile and a no-job Democrat who only has his national profile going for him).  Especially when the Democratic bench has a plethora of strong, capable and talented females all in contention.

McCaskill?

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

A democratic ticket without a female on it would be a terrible decision and likely depress turnout when females have been pivotal in the elections since 2016.  And don't tell me "I don't care about gender; I just want the two best candidates for the job" and then suggest such a weak ticket like this (no-name Senator who hasn't been able to build a national profile and a no-job Democrat who only has his national profile going for him).  Especially when the Democratic bench has a plethora of strong, capable and talented females all in contention.

McCaskill?

Yes, I'm sure the Dems will want her on the ticket after Hawley beats her by 5 to 8 Percent.

[Suburbia]

A democratic ticket without a female on it would be a terrible decision and likely depress turnout when females have been pivotal in the elections since 2016.  And don't tell me "I don't care about gender; I just want the two best candidates for the job" and then suggest such a weak ticket like this (no-name Senator who hasn't been able to build a national profile and a no-job Democrat who only has his national profile going for him).  Especially when the Democratic bench has a plethora of strong, capable and talented females all in contention.

McCaskill?

Yes, I'm sure the Dems will want her on the ticket after Hawley beats her by 5 to 8 Percent.

I think McCaskill wins by 5. However, McCaskill/Heinrich or Heinrich/McCaskill would be good.

[GoTfan]

Would actually be in favor of this if Heinrich wasn't a cosponsor of Medicare for All. Make it Kander/Heinrich and I'd vote for it though. Either would be fine running mates for Klobuchar/M. Obama/C. Kennedy.

Oh yeah. I keep forgetting that providing universal healthcare is socialist, communist, anti-American, etc.

It's a very important thing to remember. Once you accept the destruction of the entire health insurance industry for everyone via Sanders's bill, you accept the eventual destruction of all other private industry.

Really? I just have missed the part when my government destroyed private industry after instituting universal care here.

Because it didn't happen.