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« on: November 29, 2017, 04:30:29 PM »

Bernie and Tim Scott Debated and I never knew Scott was such a talented debator. what would this map look like?
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2017, 05:49:23 PM »

I'd support Bernie and I think he'd narrowly win.


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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2017, 05:53:22 PM »

I'd support Bernie and I think he'd narrowly win.



This seems plausible. It'd definitely be a close race.
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2017, 05:56:57 PM »

Scott's good at polishing turds like the GOP tax plan, but It's still a turd.
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2017, 05:58:03 PM »



This is a bad matchup for Bernie. Much worse than someone like Little Marco or Trump.
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2017, 06:00:38 PM »



This is a bad matchup for Bernie. Much worse than someone like Little Marco or Trump.
With this matchup I think Virginia, NC, Arizona, Florida, and Nevada would be the main swing states with less attention on the midwest.
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2017, 06:18:09 PM »

NC, AZ, and FL would be strongly Lean R. NV would be a problem for Bernie with his goons inevitably dismantling the Reid Machine. VA would be very close, but he'll have a turnout problem with this kind of matchup.
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2017, 10:12:08 PM »

Bernie would knock nephew tim down the gutter.
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2017, 10:15:24 PM »


Ok ok, you got me, it would be closer, but I still think Bernie would win.
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2017, 10:18:35 PM »

In 2020 Sanders would probably win if this were the match-up, but in 2016 I think Scott beats him narrowly:



280 - 258

WI is really, really close.

MI: Sanders 50, Scott 47
WI: Sanders 49, Scott 49 (Sanders wins after a recount)
PA: Scott 49, Sanders 48
FL: Scott 49.5, Sanders 48
OH: Scott 51.5, Sanders 46
IA: Scott 50.5, Sanders 47
NV: Sanders 49, Scott 47.5
NE-02: Scott 49, Sanders 48
ME-02: Scott 49, Sanders 48

why does a southerner beat a Northeasterner in a district that voted for bernie 64-35 in the primary?
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2017, 12:10:41 AM »



Scott 285
Sanders 253
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2017, 12:17:36 AM »


LOL, I think I found this to be funnier than it should've been.
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2017, 12:52:18 AM »

I bet Republicans would do a lot better with the black vote than usual, since Scott is black and Bernie is not liked by black voters. 
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2017, 12:56:54 AM »

based lord tim scott obliterates old angry man bernie into pieces
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2017, 12:57:50 AM »
« Edited: November 30, 2017, 01:00:01 AM by Cal »

I bet Republicans would do a lot better with the black vote than usual, since Scott is black and Bernie is not liked by black voters.  

He won young Black voters. NBC reported he won young Black voters by 52 percent. Hillary dominated the older Black vote, though, so he wasn't able to make much ground up.
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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2017, 01:15:52 AM »
« Edited: November 30, 2017, 04:24:12 PM by Bagel23 »

I bet Republicans would do a lot better with the black vote than usual, since Scott is black and Bernie is not liked by black voters.  

Lol, better, but I'd still say Bernie would win the black vote 85-13.
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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2017, 01:24:42 AM »
« Edited: November 30, 2017, 06:22:20 PM by Kingpoleon »


317: Timothy Scott/Kelly Ayotte - 50.6%
221: Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren - 43.8%
John Monds/Cliff Hydra - 3.5%
Others - 2.1%

Scott runs to:
- Balance the budget
- Instate revenue-neutral universal healthcare
- Cut taxes on the bottom five income brackets by 3-6%
- Cut the corporate rates to 11%-19%-27%-33%-35%-27%, with the second and third top bracket merged into the 35% range, and the fourth and fifth merged into the 33% range
- Instate a federal sales tax of 17.5%
- Ban abortions after 32 weeks, with exceptions for life and health of the mother
- Double NASA spending
- Raise the minimum wage to $9.75 by 2025
- Raise Social Security/Medicare eligibility to 70 by 2031

Sanders runs to:
- Single-payer healthcare
- Reduce military spending by 15%
- Raise all welfare spending by 20%
- $14.75 minimum wage by 2027
- Put immigration limits at 85% of Obama-era limits
- Legalize marijuana
- Close one in eight charter schools
- Raise the number of public schools by 10% in 2022, and by 1.5% every year after
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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2017, 01:45:16 PM »

I bet Republicans would do a lot better with the black vote than usual, since Scott is black and Bernie is not liked by black voters. 
The black vote is incredibly inelastic. What minimal gains Scott could make with likely come mostly from socially conservative blacks in the deep south, where the states are republican anyway. I think Scott would have done better than Trump in VA (especially since rich suburbanite preferred Clinton to Sanders) and maybe FL (I would think having a literal socialist on the democrat ticket would result in Cubans voting republican in huge numbers), but Scott's economic policies are typical GOP establishment corporatism. I'm not sure why so many people have him winning PA. He's also not the best at rallying the base. He's really only well known for being a black republican, unlike say Cruz, who doesn't need to focus on being hispanic because he's known for his conservative record and antics.
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« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2017, 03:28:06 AM »


Try again, he's at 69% favorable with them in the latest poll.

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« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2017, 08:46:02 AM »


Try again, he's at 69% favorable with them in the latest poll.



In Vermont, definitely.
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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2017, 09:04:28 AM »

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« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2017, 09:47:28 AM »


Try again, he's at 69% favorable with them in the latest poll.


Almost any semi well-known Democrat would be at 69% favorable with black voters.
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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2017, 11:57:08 AM »

This matchup makes the assumption that the Republican party would vote for a black man as their nominee. I'm not buying into that happening.
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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2017, 11:59:43 AM »

This matchup makes the assumption that the Republican party would vote for a black man as their nominee. I'm not buying into that happening.

Wasn't Herman Cain leading the field for a bit?  I'd think if the SC GOP nominated Tim Scott, the national GOP nominating a Black Republican who otherwise had political positions in line with the party as a whole isn't that unbelievable.  He or she would for sure be called an "Uncle Tom" by many liberals, but that's not in Republicans' control, per say. Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2017, 01:17:11 PM »

This matchup makes the assumption that the Republican party would vote for a black man as their nominee. I'm not buying into that happening.

Wasn't Herman Cain leading the field for a bit?  I'd think if the SC GOP nominated Tim Scott, the national GOP nominating a Black Republican who otherwise had political positions in line with the party as a whole isn't that unbelievable.  He or she would for sure be called an "Uncle Tom" by many liberals, but that's not in Republicans' control, per say. Smiley

Who's to know how Cain would have done considering the sexual assault allegations? Ben Carson, however, didn't win a single state and got a whole 7 delegates. And being nominated to fill a Senate seat by Nikki Haley is a whole different ballgame than being elected in a GOP primary by voters. The only statewide primary Scott won was in 2014, where the field was basically cleared for him and he only faced some random old guy without a working phone number. In a national race in a party currently led by a man who has normalized white nationalists and perpetuated the birtherism crap, color me skeptical on Scott's chances.
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