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« on: November 30, 2017, 10:57:58 AM »

What happens if the popular vote in an individual state is a tie?
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2017, 06:33:44 PM »

Also, y'all can make this thread a thousand times, and I'll keep making the same dumb, increasingly out-of-date reference:

Also, my understanding of the law in New Mexico is that in the event of a tie the state's electoral votes are determined by Kevin Costner, and hilarious hijinks ensue as both Presidential candidates attempt to personally woo him for his vote. 
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2017, 06:34:24 PM »

A recount. After a recount, one candidate would almost certainly win more votes than the other.
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2017, 07:25:09 PM »

A recount. After a recount, one candidate would almost certainly win more votes than the other.
And if not?
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2017, 05:25:17 PM »

Wow that is a good question.  In fact Clinton only beat Sanders by 2 votes in Iowa for the primaries.  So what happens?

Personally I'd like it to become a farting contest but I'd like to know what happens does it come down to the state legislature then?
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2017, 02:19:53 AM »

This is so ridiculous an idea that they probably just never came up with a solution. If this happened, I think we'd have a constitutional crisis. Or probably just a re-vote.
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2017, 02:39:07 AM »

A recount. After a recount, one candidate would almost certainly win more votes than the other.
And if not?

It's extremely unlikely that a state would be deadlocked even after a recount. But I imagine it'd be like Bush v Gore except somehow worse.
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2017, 07:55:06 AM »

If a vote is a tie, unless there only a handful of voters, a recount is statistically unlikely to also be a tie. Voting is a measurement of the popular will, and like any measurement there is uncertainty in the measurement. In science you would provide error bars to say that the actual measurement is within some range centered on the reported result.

We have this idea that there is a single correct value of the vote, but when there are millions of voters at hundreds of polling places, there will be measurable deviation in the result based on who and what counts it. No one counter is guaranteed to be correct so the result will change. We just use the law to determine which count shall be deemed final, though it it may not be closest to reality.
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2017, 09:33:54 PM »

It depends on the state.
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